John,

As you might have realized, the issues with the LICENSE and NOTICE
files is that, based on my understanding from PJ feedback, they are a
bit scrambled and with additional information. We have a
DISCLAIMER-WIP that we also highlight we have a dependency with
Hibernate (LGPL).

The current multiple NOTICES files are related to how the codebase is
structured - we have several repositories that host the codebase - so
each repository has its own set of legal files.

On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 5:40 AM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> With that clarification, the original thread and current bundles are a bit
> confusing to follow.  I had assumed that the main problem was that the
> NOTICE files called out dependencies that were not Apache V2 licensed yet
> those third party licenses were not listed in the LICENSE file.  If the
> NOTICE is calling out dependencies that aren't even packaged, it's a
> different problem as the NOTICE is just being overstated and that's
> probably fine for an initial release.  Even if a license is compatible with
> our release process, it needs to be included in the LICENSE file.  It is
> also confusing that you have multiple NOTICEs in your source release,
> typically we want just one.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 4:10 AM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > The only jar that I could find in the source release is:
> >
> >
> > incubator-kie-tools/packages/stunner-editors/errai-ui/src/test/resources/less.jar
> >
> > It would be ideal if this could be removed.
> >
> > apache-kie-10.0.0-incubating-sources.zip from
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/kie/10.0.0-rc3/
> >
> > I think it would also be useful if the KIE team could provide a 'How
> > to Build KIE from its source release' guide for IPMC reviewers.
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 at 03:21, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 1:16 PM Alex Porcelli <porce...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > This email serves as a call for votes to release Apache KIE
> > > > (Incubating) v10.0.0-rc3. In this release candidate we have made
> > > > efforts to incorporate feedback from the previous voting thread [1].
> > > >
> > > > The Apache KIE community has reviewed and approved the release of
> > > > Apache KIE (Incubating) v10.0.0-rc3. We now kindly request IPMC
> > > > members to review and cast their votes on this release.
> > > >
> > > > Important Note: We have identified an issue with the NOTICE and
> > > > LICENSE files [2], but we hope this will not pose a blocker for the
> > > > release.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Based on the description, I think they are.  In addition, you need to
> > > resolve the binaries in your source release.  Typically if they are test
> > > artifacts, the source contents of them are available within the source
> > tree
> > > with a command to run to build the test artifacts, or a download location
> > > on where to pull them from would work as well.  There is no one right
> > > answer that can be given.
> > >
> > > Also, I think you need to look at what a release is here at Apache.
> > While
> > > it's fine to have convenience binaries, a source release consists of the
> > > source code that makes those binaries.  What we would typically vote on
> > is
> > > a source tarball that can be reviewed.  The staged maven artifacts are a
> > > combination of source JARs, binary JARs and other files.  How do I
> > compile
> > > the source jars to make the binary JARs?  [1] may be of interest if you
> > > have not yet reviewed.
> > >
> > > So it's a -1 from me, johndament IPMC.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > [1]: https://apache.org/dev/#releases
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Apache KIE(incubating) - The home of the most popular business
> > > > automation open-source technologies including Drools, jBPM,
> > > > SonataFlow, Optaplanner, Kogito and Tools.
> > > >
> > > > KIE community vote thread:
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/nxx66ccognnk8fozt4nk11z7g57c7fnb
> > > >
> > > > Vote result thread:
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/1hhkchlwt69fn9cd3lgok55mw61kn862
> > > >
> > > > The release candidate:
> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/kie/10.0.0-rc3/
> > > >
> > > > The maven staging repos for this release:
> > > > - Drools:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekie-1055
> > > > - Optaplanner:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekie-1056
> > > > - Kogito Runtimes:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekie-1057
> > > > - Kogito Apps:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekie-1058
> > > > - Kogito Apps - JITExecutor Native Linux:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekie-1059
> > > > - Kogito Apps - JITExecutor Native Windows:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekie-1060
> > > > - Kogito Apps - JITExecutor Native MacOS:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekie-1061
> > > > - KIE Tools - JBPM Quarkus DevUI:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekie-1064
> > > > - KIE Tools - Sonataflow Quarkus DevUI:
> > > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekie-1065
> > > >
> > > > The artifacts are signed with PGP key corresponding to
> > > > [priv...@kie.apache.org], found in the KEYS file:
> > > >
> > > > https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/kie/KEYS
> > > >
> > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours until the necessary number
> > > > of votes are reached.
> > > >
> > > > Please vote accordingly:
> > > > [ ] +1 approve
> > > > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > > > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > > >
> > > > To learn more about KIE, please see https://kie.apache.org/
> > > >
> > > > Checklist for reference:
> > > >
> > > > [ ] Download KIE artifacts are valid.
> > > > [ ] Checksums and PGP signatures are valid.
> > > > [ ] Source code distributions have correct names matching the current
> > > > release.
> > > > [ ] LICENSE and NOTICE files are correct.
> > > > [ ] All files have license headers if necessary.
> > > > [ ] No compiled archives bundled in source archive.
> > > > [ ] Can compile from source.
> > > >
> > > > For updated information on how to verify the release, please refer to:
> > > > https://kie.apache.org/docs/community/verify
> > > >
> > > > For updated information on how to build from source zip, please refer
> > to:
> > > > https://kie.apache.org/docs/community/build
> > > >
> > > > [1] - https://lists.apache.org/thread/oz1xfz48jwlw05sdy0wvtnrhn27jc72h
> > > > [2] - https://lists.apache.org/thread/y9x068xwoqwrtzyrwhv06loxtt8v06fn
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Alex
> > > >
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