Hi

The proposal is more generic: today it's Apache Iceberg, but after the
discussions with the initial community we agreed it could make sense
to address other use cases.

I don't know Amoro in details, but I am happy to bridge the
communities to work together.

Regards
JB

On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 5:16 AM Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi, JB
>
> Thank you for starting this thread; it's great to see an increasing number of 
> projects being developed around Iceberg.
>
> I have two questions:
>
> - The polaris github repo said it's "an open source catalog for Apache 
> Iceberg", but the proposal changed into "a catalog for data lakes". Does it 
> mean Polaris's scope has been changed?
> - What's the difference between this project and Amoro: 
> https://github.com/apache/amoro? How do these two communities collaborate?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2024, at 04:19, Dave Fisher wrote:
> >> On Jul 30, 2024, at 11:34 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> That's a good question. The main reason is because we wanted people
> >> with Apache experience in the PPMC to mentor the committers and
> >> contributors heading to PPMC as well.
> >> Also, the initial committers worked closely with PPMC guidance
> >> (explaining the ICLA, good practice, etc).
> >> So, we wanted to have PPMC acting more as mentor (both technically but
> >> also with their Apache experience) with committers.
> >
> > That makes sense. Are any of the proposed PPMC members also ASF Members
> > and/or potentially future Mentors?
> >
> >> If it's problematic, we can start only with the PPMC group and invite
> >> new committers/PPMC members during incubation period.
> >
> > No problem. It will actually provide the Mentors and later the IPMC
> > additional data to see if the PPMC is properly growing the PPMC and
> > Committer base.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dave
> >
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 8:19 PM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi JB,
> >>>
> >>> An interesting project that looks pretty mature.
> >>>
> >>> I’m curious about the split between Initial PPMC and initial Committer. 
> >>> In the usual case a new podling will have all of the Initial Committers 
> >>> on the PPMC. Can you tell us why this is not the case with Polaris?
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>> On Jul 30, 2024, at 10:33 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> 
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> We would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator: Polaris.
> >>>>
> >>>> Polaris is a catalog for data lakes. It provides new levels of choice,
> >>>> flexibility and control over data, with full enterprise security and
> >>>> Apache Iceberg interoperability across a multitude of engines and
> >>>> infrastructure. Polaris builds on standards such as those created by
> >>>> Apache Iceberg, providing the following benefits for the ecosystem:
> >>>> * Multi-engine interoperability over a single copy of data,
> >>>> eliminating the need for moving and copying data across different
> >>>> engines and catalogs.
> >>>> * An interoperable security model providing a unified authorization
> >>>> layer independent from the engines processing analytical tables.
> >>>> * For multi-catalog scenarios, a unified catalog level view of data
> >>>> across multiple catalogs via catalog notification integrations.
> >>>> * The ability to host Polaris Catalog on the infrastructure of your 
> >>>> choice.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is the proposal:
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/PolarisProposal
> >>>>
> >>>> Comments and feedback are welcome.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> JB
> >>>>
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