On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 11:06 PM Calvin Kirs <k...@apache.org> wrote:
> Podlings are not yet fully accepted as part of the Apache Software > Foundation. > > I haven't specifically witnessed any formal decision or process for > removing the "incubator" prefix from repository names. > > Unless there are compelling reasons to remove the "incubator" prefix, I > believe it's important to maintain a clear distinction between Podlings and > TLPs, especially in situations where confusion is likely to arise. > FWIW, the incubator- prefix comes from the SVN days where all podlings were under the incubator SVN tree, then had their own but named like a subproject (which in all honesty to simplify ASF policies, podlings are really just subprojects of the Incubator PMC, hence why IPMC votes on them). As tooling has seemingly improved over time, it seems like we can map repositories to the PMC that is responsible for them without relying on naming conventions, which is a big step up. What does concern me though, looking at Hertzbeat, is that there's no mentions of the Incubator anywhere to be found. I'm assuming they're just getting stood up, but perhaps there needs to be a way to cross reference that the repository belongs to incubator that's visible to someone using that repository. I think I'd be for it, but assuming we put up some guardrails for podlings. While its true repositories can redirect, it can be confusing that they do. John > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:32 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Same mistake for Armoro as Hertzbeat team was misguided from > > https://github.com/apache/amoro/issues/2700 > > > > This is not discussed AFAIK, and the description is not correct. > > GitHub supported renaming and repository path forward automatically > > years ago. apache/incubator-foo -> apache/foo is transparent and both > > addresses work. > > > > This should not be changed randomly considering many other projects > > are using incubator- prefix. This renaming causes confusion. IPMC are > > making sure the website has `incubating` and disclaimer as always, > > suddenly some projects even could use repository names without > > prefixes. This is wrong. > > > > Mentors of Armoro and Hertzbeat should follow the existing > > requirements, and PPMC members of these two projects should ask INFRA > > to rename, adding the incubator- prefix back. > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org> 于2024年4月17日周三 10:19写道： > > > > > > > For projects in incubation, is it no longer necessary for the project > > > > name to have the "incubator-" prefix as it used to be? > > > > > > Based on the discussions in this mailing list, the only change made is > > the removal of `incubator` from the domain. Now, users access ` > > polding.apache.org` instead of `polding.incubator.apache.org` by > default. > > > > > > The project and releases are still required to include "incubator", and > > it's important for the PPMC to clearly communicate that this project > > remains under incubation. > > > > > > In this case, I believe Hertzbeat PPMC made a mistake. I will suggest > > they rename it to incubator-hertzbeat. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, at 14:23, rat O wrote: > > > > First of all, congratulations to HertzBeat for successfully entering > > > > the Apache Incubator. > > > > > > > > I noticed that the project has created an issue for an unknown > license > > > > and is ready to address it. I'm sure the project will also address > > > > other unknown licenses, if they exist. > > > > > > > > I wonder if the situation of having a significant amount of > non-English > > > > languages in the codes, like these > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/warehouse/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/warehouse/config/WarehouseProperties.java > > , > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/common/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/common/entity/manager/NoticeRule.java > > , > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/hertzbeat/blob/master/common/src/main/java/org/apache/hertzbeat/common/config/AviatorConfiguration.java > > > > ... > > > > , will all of them also be addressed in the future? > > > > > > > > For projects in incubation, is it no longer necessary for the project > > > > name to have the "incubator-" prefix as it used to be? > > > > > > -- > > > Xuanwo > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > -- > Best wishes！ > CalvinKirs >
