Good to hear, Jean-Baptiste! We will send the proposal both here and to the Livy private list, I guess. Once we come to an agreement and direction we can share with the dev@ and user@ lists.
Thanks again! --larry On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 12:49 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> wrote: > Hi Larry, > > Agree with Claude: if we can have concrete proposal (in terms of > community and roadmap), it's OK. We are not in a rush, if we can have > this in the commit weeks, it's fine. > I would sent this on the Livy mailing list. > > Again, I would be more than happy to help and contribute on Livy. > > Regards > JB > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 6:08 PM larry mccay <lmc...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > I was hoping that we could bring a set of contributors as: > > > > * mentors - 1 or 2 plus whoever wants to remain > > * PPMC/Committers - 2 or 3 plus whoever wants to remain > > * election of a PPMC chair if needed > > > > Also open it up for folks to ask to join (as well as go emeritus) as I > know > > there are others that have tried to contribute and have gotten know where > > or have long since decided it wasn't worth trying anymore. > > > > So, my thought was almost a new Proposal and solicitation for community > > bootstrap with a few seeds planted to help it grow. > > I was also considering a goal of getting it back off the ground with some > > number of releases and proof of health as a project to fast track to a > > graduation discussion. > > A bit early to talk about that now but that was a detail that I thought > > would possibly go into such a reboot proposal. > > > > @Jean-Baptiste - we have compiled a list of features/improvements that we > > would be able to bring to the table with the reboot as well. > > These are improvements that have been made internally due the sense of > not > > being able to get them in. I lack the details around the attempts at this > > time but we would be bringing source as well. > > We could list these as part of the proposal/concrete plans. > > > > If you think this proposal can be done more casually, that's fine too. I > > just would like to make it clear that we would open it up to new folks as > > well. > > > > However you'd like to see it done, we can have concrete commitments to > you > > within a week or so more than likely. > > > > BTW, I did note that Ambari was sent to the attic and then pulled back > out > > [1] back in June into July of this year. > > I would hope that we could avoid the administrative headache that seems > to > > have been involved in that reinstatement. > > > > 1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC-205 > > > > On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 11:04 AM Claude Warren, Jr > > <claude.war...@aiven.io.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Larry et.al. > > > > > > I think we need concrete steps. So if Larry produced a list of new > > > committers could we get them added to the list and see if development > > > starts again? > > > > > > Mentors / Champion does that work for you? > > > > > > Larry, can you produce such a list? > > > > > > Is there an objection to proceeding along these lines? > > > > > > Claude > > > > > > On Fri 7 Oct 2022, 03:07 Jean-Baptiste Onofré, <j...@nanthrax.net> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Larry, > > > > > > > > I tried maybe 3 times to get Livy back to active, without success. > > > > I was a volunteer to contribute, but not alone, we need a community > > > around > > > > Livy. > > > > > > > > I don't remember having seen new active contributions on the mailing > > > > list, and very limited on source code. > > > > > > > > If you really think we can have a team, that would be great, and I > > > > still agree to support. But it has to be concrete. > > > > > > > > Let's see what the other IPMC members are thinking, but IMHO, I doubt > > > > we will have Livy back to life in the short term. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > JB > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 5:29 PM larry mccay <lmc...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > As I mentioned in a previous thread [1], I would like to help avoid > > > > sending > > > > > a well regarded, actively consumed and mature product to the attic. > > > There > > > > > have been discussions internally at my employer and we have also > > > > struggled > > > > > getting our contributions committed. The original group of > committers > > > > seem > > > > > to have all moved on, and this is the core challenge for those > that are > > > > > trying to contribute, but are not committers. This doesn’t > represent a > > > > > lack of interest in doing so and I think there are others in this > > > > position. > > > > > > > > > > We are interested in trying to reboot with additional PPMC > leadership > > > and > > > > > investing in contributors that we would like to install as new > > > > committers. > > > > > > > > > > I’d like to hear what the incubator would think about a Reproposal > for > > > > the > > > > > Livy project that would be open to existing PMC members and > committers > > > as > > > > > well as new contributors with a vested interest in this project > and the > > > > > health of its community. > > > > > > > > > > How would we best propose such a thing here? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > –larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/list?general@incubator.apache.org:2022-7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 5:21 AM Luciano Resende < > luckbr1...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Based on the failed attempts to resurrect a community, +1 for > > > > retirement. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 07:26 Jean-Baptiste Onofré < > j...@nanthrax.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After several attempts, we are struggling to execute Livy > podling: > > > > the > > > > > > > activity is pretty low, and even after a couple of calls for > > > action, > > > > > > > we don't have a clear sign of community around Livy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to discuss/propose to retire the Livy podling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > JB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sent from my Mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
