Hi, John In a short version, they are not a legal entity. But they work like one. They worked like a virtual org, including accepting project donation, transfer projects from individual to an org, announce news from an org perspective to present this project. I believe the major reason of not being a legal entity, is that, it is hard to regisr a foundation in China.
It is not about supporting projects, guide or providing local support or docs. Those are totally fine. But dromara doesn't provide that. > Dromara > 是由国内顶尖的开源项目作者共同组成的开源社区。提供包括开源网关，分布式事务，流行工具，企业级认证，微服务RPC，运维监控，Agent监控，分布式日志，调度编排等一系列开源产品、解决方案与咨询、技术支持与培训认证服务。技术栈全面开源共建、 保持社区中立，致力于为全球用户提供微服务云原生解决方案。让参与的每一位开源爱好者，体会到开源的快乐。 Dromara开源社区目前拥有10+GVP项目，总star数量超过7万，构建了上万人的开源社区，有成千上万的个人及团队在使用Dromara社区的开源项目。 This is their own statement. It clearly declare (owns projects) John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>于2022年7月3日 周日00:41写道： > Hi > > My questions have mostly to do with translations, as the source sites are > predominantly in Chinese, not a language I understand. > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 8:38 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Shenyu and incubator > > > > Shenyu is going to graduate in next month, I accidentally have a > > chance to review its original org, Dromara, due to some reviews for > > SkyWalking PR. > > > > There are two things concerning me. > > 1. Dromara website[1] still declare Shenyu(even with Apache prefix) on > > its project page. I think this is wrong and confusing end-users. As > > this project has been donated for a long time, why it is still hosted > > there? > > > > > What exactly does it mean for a project to be listed on the projects page > here? I didn't see any descriptive text, but nothing on the page looked > like ownership. I'm not sure if Dromara is a commercial entity or not, but > it's OK for a commercial company to provide support/capabilities for an > Apache project. See AmazonMQ for Apache ActiveMQ as an example of this. > > > > 2. Hutool project[2], another project hosted in dromara community, its > > website declares very clearly Shenyu is a project of Dromara > > community. > > > > Again, is there a better translation/explanation of this? Is this where > it's asserted that Apache ShenYu is owned by Dromara, instead of Apache? > > > > 3. Sa-token project[3], Dromara community project. It posts Shenyu's > > logo as well without Apache prefix, and it links the project to > > gitee[4], which is mostly an official mirror of Shenyu. > > > > Could Shenyu's PMC take care of this? make sure that, Dromara is not a > > big open-source community, and several people in Shenyu PMC team > > actually leads this community as far as I know. > > 1. From Dromara community perspective, it would keep declaring things > > like this. Shenyu has been donated to the foundation. > > 2. All links, especially those you could control in the Dromara > > community's project, should go to the Apache website, or Apache's > > GitHub repository very clearly. > > > > There's a "Start up" button, but I'm guessing this should translate as > "Getting Started". Is the intention of these Getting Started guides > explaining how to run these software components within the context of > Dromara? Or just how to run them in general? > > Mostly the reason I'm asking is because on the landing page for Dromara, it > mentions the organization's purpose is "An organization dedicated to native > solutions for the microservice cloud" which can be built on Apache products > and if they're providing a guide on how to integrate the Apache product > into their own software stack it may make sense that they're listed as an > integrated component. > > Thanks, > > John > > > > > > For members of the PMC team, I hope Shenyu's PMC could take more > > responsibilities to protect the ASF and project branding. This should > > not be hard to find, as you are working inside Dromara community. > > Unless you didn't know this is a branding, this would concern me more, > > as you are going to graduate a TLP. > > > > > > [1] https://dromara.org/projects/ > > [2] https://www.hutool.cn/ > > [3] https://sa-token.dev33.cn/ > > [4] https://gitee.com/Apache-ShenYu/incubator-shenyu > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > -- Sheng Wu 吴晟 Apache SkyWalking Apache Incubator Apache ShardingSphere, ECharts, DolphinScheduler podlings Zipkin Twitter, wusheng1108
