> On Apr 3, 2021, at 4:49 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 at 23:43, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2021, at 3:38 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 22:28, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 17:48, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sebb,
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed you did a lot of updates to .htaccess [1] - I have some inline
>>>>> questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 4:31 PM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sebb,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 4:22 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's currently quite awkward fixing up retired podling websites so
>>>>>>> they redirect to the status page.
>>>>>>> There are currently about 6 such podlings, dating back to Nov 2013.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [It's easy enough to do this for incubator sub-sites (e.g.
>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/wave), as these can use a single .htaccess
>>>>>>> file; that is not the case for the above sites otherwise they would
>>>>>>> have been fixed ages ago]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recent podlings use websites like http://ariatosca.apache.org/ and/or
>>>>>>> http://ariatosca.incubator.apache.org/
>>>>>>> The redirects need to be added in each website source.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This can be difficult to do, see INFRA-21451 re Tamaya.
>>>>>>> This was opened on Feb 21st and has yet to be completed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have proposed an Infra PR which should make it much easier to set up
>>>>>>> the redirect to the status file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The idea is to set up a special directory:
>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/retired/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For each retired podling, create a marker directory, e.g.
>>>>>>> tamaya/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can add a step in the clutch2.sh shell script to maintain these
>>>>>> placeholders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you still need retired/${podling} marker directories?
>>>>
>>>> Not yet.
>>>>
>>>> Infra have not yet applied the PR, so the marker directories won't
>>>> have any effect yet.
>>>
>>> The PR has now been applied.
>>
>> So, please review https://incubator.apache.org/podlings_retired.txt
>
> No idea what that file has to do with this thread, or what you expect
> me to review.
>
>> If create a retired/$col1 directory on the website the trouble will resolve?
>
> Try creating retired/tamaya/ and see what happens to http://tamaya.apache.org/
> It should redirect to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/tamaya.html
>
> N.B. this only needs to be done for retired podlings whose URLs don't
> already redirect.
>
> There are only about 6 of those, see:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-262
>
>> I want to make sure I'm picking the podling attribute you expect.
>
> The directory name under retired/ must be the same as the unqualified
> host name for the podling website.
I’m not sure I’m doing what you expected:
A file is created with the directories you expect at
http://incubator.apache.org/retired/tamaya/project.txt
The source is here:
https://github.com/apache/incubator/blob/master/assets/retired/tamaya/project.txt
However I’m not seeing the redirect.
>
> i.e. tamaya for tamaya.apache.org or tamaya.incubator.apache.org
>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the web server detects that there is a directory matching the first
>>>>>>> part of the web host name (e.g. tamaya), then it redirects to
>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/tamaya.html (e.g.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should also review the .htaccess for the incubator. More
>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you explain .htaccess comments like:
>>>>> #
>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-retired-pirk.git;a=blob;f=.htaccess;hb=refs/heads/asf-site
>>>>> # https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/sirona/site/.htaccess
>>>>
>>>> There was a TODO for the retired podling; I replaced it with details
>>>> of where the htaccess file is located.
>>>> (The redirect cannot be done in [1])
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Would .htaccess redirects like the following break anything?
>>>>> RedirectMatch Permanent ^/sirona(/.*)?$
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/sirona.html
>>>>
>>>> Redirects would not work.
>>>>
>>>> Or rather, they would only apply to http(s)://incubator.apache.org/sirona/*
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that would do any harm, but the original website was
>>>> http(s)://sirona.apache.org/ so they would not be particularly useful.
>>>>
>>>>> If possible I think that the whole set of graduated and retired .htaccess
>>>>> could be generated.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure it's worth the effort of coding, testing and maintaining such
>>>> a generator.
>>>>
>>>> Changes are not that frequent, and are pretty easy to do by reference
>>>> to an existing entry.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, I don't think there will be (m)any more changes to [1] --
>>>> podling redirects will have to be made elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> When current podlings retire, the htaccess entry has to be made in the
>>>> podling website.
>>>>
>>>> However if Infra apply the PR, redirects can be enabled simply by
>>>> setting up the retired/<podling> marker directory.
>>>
>>> The PR has been applied, so it should now work.
>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/apache/incubator/master/assets/.htaccess
>>>>>
>>>>> All The Best,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Simples.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sebb.
>>>>>>> P.S. Attic works in a similar way, but adds a banner instead of
>>>>>>> redirecting.
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