Agree to raise this issue, even before podling starts. Initial teams need
to follow up on this potential problem[1]. Let's see how things go :-)

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353

Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> 于2021年1月28日周四 上午12:35写道:

> It's typically a good idea to figure out your project name early on.
> If you have to change the name before graduation in order to get a
> trademark, then that wastes the momentum gathered under the old name.
> That can always happen after the podling boots up, though.
>
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 07:44, Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is just a reminder, not an instruction.
> > The naming search and approval will officially happen when you are
> powerful
> > enough to graduate.
> > Personally, I would like to see this as a potential risk, not just
> > regarding Solace.
> >
> > Of course, this is your option. you should know, if you can't get
> approval
> > in the future, you will have a much bigger branding hurt.
> > (You don't need to convince me)
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > ShannonDing <ding...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午9:23写道:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would like to make a comments about this serious problem too,
> > > In order not to cause unnecessary trouble in the future, we also
> request
> > > the infra member from apache to help check whether this name is
> > > appropriate[1].
> > > For us, we have used the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to
> > > keep it so that users can get better product positioning from this
> name.
> > > According to this document[2], we also searched in the US Patent
> Office[3]
> > > and found no non-compliance.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
> > > [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
> > > [3] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 01/27/2021 21:11,Eason Chen<chenguangsh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > @Sheng Wu
> > > thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this
> concerns.
> > >
> > > As @Duane Pauls <duane.pa...@gmail.com> clarified this before:
> > > “*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we
> do not
> > > have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it
> is
> > > something our products are closely aligned with。 Solace does not
> oppose the
> > > term being used in other applicable products or projects.*”
> > > Solace do not  have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event
> Mesh”.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
> > > Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it
> through
> > > Google search,
> https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > <fpa...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Yes, it looks very promising.
> > >
> > > I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate
> the
> > > project into Karaf with JB ;)
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > François
> > > fpa...@apache.org
> > >
> > > Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> > > importance to this project according to the feedback given by
> > > communities.
> > > Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> > > changes in the project and community.
> > >
> > > @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jbono...@apache.org>  EventMesh really need
> > > to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Von Gosling
> > >
> > > Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道:
> > >
> > > Hi Eason,
> > >
> > > That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
> > >
> > > I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
> > >
> > > I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
> > > that
> > > we
> > > "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
> > >
> > > Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
> > > interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <chenguangsh...@apache.org> a
> > > écrit :
> > > Good time of the time to all!
> > >
> > > I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> > > comments
> > > and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
> > > acceptance
> > > into Incubator.
> > >
> > > People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> > > behind
> > > the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> > > China)
> > > as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> > > graduation.
> > > I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> > > started
> > > in
> > > WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> > > however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
> > > of
> > > doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
> > > this
> > > group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
> > >
> > > The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
> > > see
> > > it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> > > ecosystem
> > > and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> > >
> > > By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
> > > are
> > > interested.
> > >
> > > With best regards,
> > >
> > > The project's proposal is available at [1].
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> > >
> > > Eason Chen
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
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