Hi, Dave and Justin. Thanks to both of you, I‘m really appreciated your help.
Just have a nice conversation with Dave, I think Weex still needs to be in the Incubator for some time. I replied earlier in the thread, but the response from Weex really should > be to complete a Podling Name Search - > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html < > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html> > I will do it and discuss it in another mailing list, as this list is too long already. At ApacheCon Shane gavse a version of this talk which also may help: > http://shaneslides.com/fossbackstage/Who-Owns-That-FOSS-Brand.pdf > Thanks, Justin, this talk really taught me something, I really wish I could read it years before. Best Regards York Shen 申远 Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org>于2019年11月1日 周五11:28写道： > Hi YorkShen, > > > On Nov 1, 2019, at 10:33 AM, 申远 <shenyua...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, Justin. > > > > After serious thinking these days, I decided to withindraw the graduation > > vote. We need spend more time in Incubator, this graduation vote is a > > little hurry. > > > > I admitted your concerns about diverse and independent community have > some > > points, Weex still needs to impove in this apsect. > > > > For branding part, I have some reservations about it, but I will see > what I > > can do to make things better. > > I replied earlier in the thread, but the response from Weex really should > be to complete a Podling Name Search - > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html < > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html> > > An issue is created here - > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH < > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH> > > Someone on the Podling needs to do the research which should reveal any > conflicts. The VP, Brand will approve or ask questions. It may be that some > of these issues may require discussion about brand risk. Until the research > is complete it is hard to know. > > The Board is unlikely to approve graduation without the brand name being > approved by the VP, Brand. > > > > > Is there any other concerns you have about Weex towards graduation ? > > These are the two. They are important. You are to be congratulated for > overcoming the LGPL issue! > > > > FYI: Weex needs more active mentors, if possible. That would denifitely > > help. > > Regards, > Dave > > > > Best Regards, > > YorkShen > > > > 申远 > > > > > > ซ่อยค่อย ลืมเขาแน่ <0989132858...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月30日周三 下午9:20写道： > > > >> เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2019 7:52 PM "申远" <shenyua...@gmail.com> เขียนว่า > >> > >>> FYI: If the initial committers really matter, maybe we could ask > >> secretary > >>> to help us find out how many individuals signed the ICLA when Weex > >> entered > >>> the Incubator. > >>> > >>> Best Regards, > >>> YorkShen > >>> > >>> 申远 > >>> > >>> > >>> ซ่อยค่อย ลืมเขาแน่ <0989132858...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月30日周三 下午8:35写道： > >>> > >>>> เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2019 7:16 PM "申远" <shenyua...@gmail.com> เขียนว่า > >>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The PPMC needs to protect their brand in particular from their own > >>>>> company. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Agree with that, and this is exactly why I am persuading project like > >>>>> Weex-UI [1] donated to ASF instead of making them changing their name > >>> to > >>>>> "XXX powered by Apache Weex" and then pretend there is no problem. > >>>>> > >>>>> Anyone on the Initial list are committers I assume you mean they see > >>> not > >>>>>> contributing? > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> No, some [2] of them are never committers of Weex according to our > >>>> whimsy. > >>>>> For example, the top 2 names on the initial developer list are not > >>>>> committers of Weex according to whimsy and they didn't contribute, of > >>>>> course. Some of other names, like me, are also on the initial > >> developer > >>>>> list, but I was actually elected as Weex committer four months after > >> it > >>>>> into incubator. There is a vote for nominating me as a Weex committer > >>>> [3]. > >>>>> I don't know what happened here, as I am not the initial committer in > >>>> fact. > >>>>> But the initial developer list [2] is incorrect, I'm sure about that. > >>>>> > >>>>> [1] > >>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ab1cdf009697ac261e10c8963ed9ad > >>>>> fe226edeee056f0c7dabb780c0@%3Cdev.weex.apache.org%3E > >>>>> [2] > >>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b53537fea384f1d75c9921f71e13d1 > >>>>> 7780381504cff971e5f18bda96@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E > >>>>> [3] > >>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8ebbd2fb5fb85c1da4328685859ae1 > >>>>> bb365a8b6253772c9e06940a39@%3Cprivate.weex.apache.org%3E > >>>>> > >>>>> Best Regards, > >>>>> YorkShen > >>>>> > >>>>> 申远 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Justin Mclean <justinmcl...@gmail.com> 于2019年10月30日周三 下午7:32写道： > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It seems like there are two concerns around Weex, branding and > >>>>> independent > >>>>>>> community. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'd still like to hear what your mentors think. Are they active? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For branding part, I understand this is a serious issue, and it > >> takes > >>>> me > >>>>>>> months to solve this kinds of issues > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This needs to be the PPMC not just you. I chose some of those links > >>> on > >>>>>> purpose as they belong to the company they belong to. The PPMC > >> needs > >>> to > >>>>>> protect their brand in particular from their own company. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - Though there are 13 committers according to the initial > >> proposal > >>>>> [5], > >>>>>>> but many of them are not committers today. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Anyone on the Initial list are committers I assume you mean they > >> see > >>>> not > >>>>>> contributing? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just take the committers on the initial proposal as an inacurrate > >>>>> records, > >>>>>>> there are some mistakes on this list. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This seems concerning. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - There are developers out of the comany make their own tools > >>>> around > >>>>>>> Weex > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Which is great but they are external to the project. Whats the > >>> barriers > >>>>> (if > >>>>>> any) that stopped them from doing this development inside the > >>> project? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Justin > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > -- Best Regards York Shen 申远
