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> On Aug 13, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:17 PM Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> Hoops constructed by the IPMC. Like a secondary release vote on general@
>> 
>> This is because of ASF bylaws i.e only PMC votes are binding on releases.
> 
> 
> That is not in the Bylaws. Stop making stuff up.
> 
> 
>> So you're saying implementations of ASF bylaws are "arbitrarily defined
>> hoops”?
> 
> 
> See above.
> 
> 
>> There could be other ways of dealing with this bylaw that have been
>> suggested,
> 
> 
> What bylaw? Got a reference?
> 
> 
>> for example treating podling releases not as official Apache releases.
> 
> 
> That is the origin of this thread, because you only ever pose
> hypotheticals. You only pose "could" possibilities. But you *never* move
> things to conclusion. So this thread is an attempt to do so.
> 
> Your "could" emails on this thread is antithetical to its origin.
> 
> 
>> But that also has implications and concerns, which I’m not seeing being
>> addressed in this discussion.
>> 
> 
> Then help drive it, rather than take a back seat. Drive a decision.
> 
> Q: Does the IPMC want to produce non-ASF releases?
> 
> -g


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