Hi, > Only because IPMC said it must provide such votes. Can you provide a reference to that? I realise that may be hard to do so given it was so long ago.
I searched and was unable to find where that happened in the the list history. The earliest reference I could find was this [1] (in 2004), and this a little later [3] refers to the incubator release process. It certainly seems that the current situation is not new e.g. [3] (2004) and [4] (2003). The Wayback Machine is a little more helpful and gives this in 2002 [5] which states incubating communities need to follow Apache voting rules, and this page [6] says that 3 +1 binding votes are required for releases. It seems that PPMC concept comes in a little later [4] (which is quite an interesting thread). From what I can see, 3+1 binding votes was either a community norm when the IPMC was founded (in 2002) or was introduced very shortly after (in 2003) and has continued to be used since then. A lot of people have not been around that long and don’t know the history of this (including me). The current voting process is the same as what any other TLP does and follows the foundation policy on voting on releases [4] > Others disagree, and want an answer from Legal. Roman seems amenable, if the > IPMC has the will to > formally ask. The question has already been asked and an answer given deepening on how you view podling releases. It might need some further discussion. > But even if you ignore the age, a PMC was constructed by the Board with the > *duty* to onboard new groups. Consider seriously for a moment if another TLP project just announced that anyone's vote was binding, not only PMC members. How would the Board view that? Do the ASF bylaws even allow that? Thanks, Justin 1. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/e56c6b37c1cace4689e92f7d7c3d53aadb1d57e01325883baf16af63@1098344049@%3Cpmc.incubator.apache.org%3E 2. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/04a010f79694079c5ed555e98944770f0df9fae1684a526b5c5e7b9c@1134067119@%3Cpmc.incubator.apache.org%3E 3. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/490ab2392c21843d941e1ccee03982f533cc512cd3356608333c549a@1074121745@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E 4. https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotes 5. https://web.archive.org/web/20030205015159/http://incubator.apache.org/process.html 6. https://web.archive.org/web/20030205072727/http://incubator.apache.org/drafts/voting.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
