+1 from my side. This looks like a small but very viable community to me.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 6:38 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Thanks! My concern is that in the past the IPMC has graduated podlings with 5 
> PMC members that fairly quickly ended up in the Attic.
>
> With potential committers in view I’m less concerned!
>
> There are plenty of successful projects with 5-10 active PMC.
>
> +1
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 4, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > The one addition you mention explicitly said, that due to changes at work 
> > he will not be able to participate and is not willing to invest his private 
> > time :-( ... But we are more than willing to re-invite past contributors 
> > later, if they decided not to be carried over now.
> >
> > And yes, there are potential candidates that we are keeping an eye on, 
> > which we will probably invite soon.
> >
> > We know there are way larger communities in the incubator but as far as I 
> > understand incubation, it's all about the projects learning to become good 
> > Apache communities and that they demonstrate their fitness to do correct 
> > releases. I guess we have proven that and continuing to grow community is 
> > and will remain the goal of every Apache project throughout it's existence.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> herunterladen
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 8:14:00 PM
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache PLC4X (incubating) as a TLP
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> > I am for graduation. I appreciate the need to narrow the PMC to those who 
> > are active. I’ll note that one of your recent additions (noted on the Oct 
> > 2018 report) did not continue while the other did.
> >
> > Graduating with only 6 PMC is pretty narrow. Are there other developers 
> > active who look like you will want to add to the committer / PMC soon after 
> > graduation?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >> On Apr 4, 2019, at 6:59 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Since Apache PLC4X (incubating) entered the incubator in December 2017 we 
> >> have attracted quite a number of new PPMCs,
> >> committers and contributors that didn’t have any experience with Apache 
> >> and the Apache Way.
> >>
> >> However have we managed to educate these new individuals and have grown to 
> >> a community that operates nicely following
> >> the Apache Way. All issues reported have been addressed and our last 
> >> releases usually passed without any objections.
> >>
> >> We recently had a discussion on graduation [5] and just finished a 
> >> community vote [2] on the matter which resulted in 7 (binding) +1, 1 
> >> (non-binding) +1 and no 0 or -1 votes [1].
> >> In another discussion prior to the vote we decided to reduce the number of 
> >> PMCs/Committers to those existing who explicitly expressed the wish to be 
> >> included [3].
> >> This was due to the fact that when setting up the project outside of 
> >> Apache, a lot of my colleagues initially expressed the wish to participate 
> >> and we included them in the initial contributor list.
> >> However most of these never did anything and some didn’t even sign up for 
> >> our mailing lists.
> >> Some have expressed the wish to go emeritus and we used a vote [4] to 
> >> define the initial PMC for the TLP.
> >>
> >> We would like to continue the graduation process and hereby ask you all 
> >> for your opinion on this.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> [1] 
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d53c159c6e8973a6e763635c90bc0f52e0c4fa576da80f553bc4aa40@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
> >> [2] 
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a4cf5b1ad7b59e79ae33f3d09032e7942a7191a319335303e16d286@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
> >> [3] 
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/d14e972889dad4ca9cb72f2447edb422df2742f8d71bf140618ba021@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
> >> [4] 
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7a979438fa050bc873a4df0da9b628edaa61d350a17364b837a059d3@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
> >> [5] 
> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0a590c8aabced1b46e1200aeface51e9fe34cdf01ed7753a6779ce55@%3Cdev.plc4x.apache.org%3E
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------
> >>
> >> Establish the Apache PLC4X Project
> >>
> >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of
> >> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish
> >> a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> >> of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public,
> >> related to a set of libraries for communicating with industrial
> >> programmable logic controllers (PLCs) using a variety of protocols but
> >> with a shared API.
> >>
> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
> >> (PMC), to be known as the "Apache PLC4X Project", be and hereby is
> >> established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache PLC4X Project be and hereby is responsible for
> >> the creation and maintenance of software related to a set of libraries
> >> for communicating with industrial programmable logic controllers (PLCs)
> >> using a variety of protocols but with a shared API; and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache PLC4X" be and
> >> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the
> >> direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache PLC4X
> >> Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the
> >> projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache PLC4X Project;
> >> and be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
> >> appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache PLC4X Project:
> >>
> >> * Christofer Dutz    <cd...@apache.org<mailto:cd...@apache.org>>
> >> * Julian Feinauer    <jfeina...@apache.org<mailto:jfeina...@apache.org>>
> >> * Justin Mclean      <jmcl...@apache.org<mailto:jmcl...@apache.org>>
> >> * Markus Sommer      <msom...@apache.org<mailto:msom...@apache.org>>
> >> * Sebastian Rühl     <sru...@apache.org<mailto:sru...@apache.org>>
> >> * Tim Mitsch         <tmit...@apache.org<mailto:tmit...@apache.org>>
> >>
> >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Christofer Dutz be
> >> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache PLC4X, to serve in
> >> accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
> >> and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
> >> removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
> >> it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache PLC4X PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> >> the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development
> >> and increased participation in the Apache PLC4X Project; and be it
> >> further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that the Apache PLC4X Project be and hereby is tasked with the
> >> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator PLC4X podling; and
> >> be it further
> >>
> >> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator
> >> PLC4X podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
> >> discharged.
> >>
> >
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