Ah yes... agreed.

> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> The potential conflict is a small San Francisco blockchain software comp[any 
> called kava.io <http://kava.io/>.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> +1 keeping as-is.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>> 
>>> First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
>>> 
>>> I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed 
>>> to proposing the project.
>>> To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with 
>>> this name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
>>> 
>>> We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and 
>>> others, and it looks like we can go from there.
>>> 
>>> John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named Kava 
>>> Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
>>> https://github.com/Kava-Labs
>>> It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the 
>>> interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
>>> I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on 
>>> Jira.
>>> 
>>> I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this 
>>> approach.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, I
>>>> would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
>>>> presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
>>>> 
>>>> However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
>>>> https://kava.io/
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber <shu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
>>>>> forget the original meaning.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
>>>>> name :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Blockava
>>>>> - Blockva
>>>>> - Chainava
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Serge...
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Consensus Java :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
>>>>> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
>>>>> always go
>>>>>>>> with Apache Cava name.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Henry
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme <anto...@toulme.name
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you Anu.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
>>>>> agreeable.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
>>>>> aengin...@hortonworks.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
>>>>>>>>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> From the link:
>>>>>>>>>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
>>>>> covered
>>>>>>>>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
>>>>> the other
>>>>>>>>> dew drops.
>>>>>>>>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
>>>>> dew
>>>>>>>>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>>>>>>>>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
>>>>> graph (
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --Anu
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme" <anto...@toulme.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
>>>>>>>>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
>>>>>>>>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines
>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of
>>>>> names:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>>>>>>>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
>>>>>>>>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>>>>>>>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
>>>>>>>>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia),
>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> chain theme as well)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used
>>>>>>>>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the
>>>>> guidelines to
>>>>>>>>> search across different open source communities.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a
>>>>>>>>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let
>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>> know as well.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Antoine
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
>>>>>>>>>> [1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html <
>>>>>>>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
>>>>>>>>>> [2]:
>>>>> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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