> On Feb 7, 2019, at 10:46 AM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 10:31 PM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI,
>>>> 
>>>>> This was done. The issue is that the "3.0.0 outside Apache" release 
>>>>> should not be associated with Apache but with the previous project.
>>>> 
>>>> They also made a 3.1.0 release as well and it was on the Apache github 
>>>> site (both 3.0 and 3.1 have now been removed from there).
>>>> 
>>>>> It looks like the original repositories have been changed to redirect to 
>>>>> Apache. I'd suggest restoring the original 
>>>>> https://github.com/sharding-sphere/ 
>>>>> <https://github.com/sharding-sphere/sharding-sphere.git>* repositories so 
>>>>> they don't automatically redirect to the Apache podling git repositories. 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not so sure that's OK. It’s probably not right for a PPMC to be 
>>>> releasing software anywhere advertised to the general public that hasn’t 
>>>> been approved for release. Could a 3rd party do it sure, could they call 
>>>> it Sharding Sphere probably not.
>>> 
>>> To be clear, the ShardingSphere PPMC did not release anything. The group of 
>>> people who managed the project before it became the ShardingSphere PPMC did 
>>> the release.
>>> 
>>> The unfortunate thing is that the ShardingSphere PPMC then made the release 
>>> available on the PPMC-managed site. This is the wrong thing that needs to 
>>> be fixed. Removing the 3.x releases from the Apache site is part of the 
>>> fix. Restoring the github project that existed prior to the creation of the 
>>> podling is the other part.
>>> 
>>> I hope we can agree that there are two separate projects. One of them will 
>>> be obsolete and will disappear once Apache ShardingSphere graduates. The 
>>> old ShardingSphere will no longer have rights to the name. 
>> 
>> Was the ASF Git for ShardingSphere created by cloning the legacy project, or 
>> was the repo transferred under an SGA?
>> 
> I believe this INFRA ticket has the relevant information: 
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/INFRA/issues/INFRA-17289 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/INFRA/issues/INFRA-17289>

The old repository was moved to the ASF and logically that should also have 
moved the legacy releases.

There are tradeoffs between moving / renaming and cloning. What moving the 
repository means is that technically there is no old repository or project.

Prior “Non-Apache Releases” are attached to the repository and come along. What 
to do? I think we have to accept these, but mark them appropriately as deleting 
them would be for the project community during transition.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> More details on provenance:
> 
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ShardingSphereProposal
> 
> The code base was granted by Dangdang:
> 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents/grants/dangdang-sharding-sphere.pdf
> 
> Craig
> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Justin
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