The discussion seems to have died down enough that I feel comfortable opening up a new VOTE thread. Thanks everyone who has contributed; I know that the Metron community appreciates the feedback and discussion.
Best, Casey On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Dave; I think that we all appreciate the concerns around > insulating the project from a single sponsor. The fact that we do take > the ASF processes seriously is one of the things that makes the community > comforted, I think. I appreciate the diligence in ensuring that we have > our ducks in a row from that perspective. > > Best, > > Casey > > On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Thank you for the answers. >> >> I am all for graduation if Metron. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Mar 27, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Dave, >> > >> > To clarify, we have 24 PPMC members, of which 12 are >> Hortonworks-affiliated >> > and 12 are not. We have 6 additional committers who are not PPMC >> members. >> > Some of them are affiliated and some of them are not. For the purpose of >> > this, we only captured the affiliations of the PPMC members. >> > >> > I did some quick analysis of the git log and found the following: >> > >> > % Commits by Hortonworkers: 79% >> > >> > % Contributors affiliated to Hortonworks: 42% >> > >> > In associating affiliation, I am being as generous as possible and >> > including people who I know to work at Hortonworks who may or may not >> be in >> > the engineering organization. I know that some of these people are >> > contributing to Metron in their spare time as independent open source >> > contributions. >> > >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Casey >> > >> >> On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 9:03 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 11:52 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> To be honest, I don't know, but I don't see it as a problem. >> >>>> >> >>>> I will admit upfront that I am a Hortonworks employee, so there is >> >>>> potential for bias. But I always try to wear the right hat, even >> when my >> >>>> position may not please my employer. >> >>>> >> >>>> As a mentor (to this and other podlings), I try to instill that ethic >> >>>> during incubation and thereafter. >> >>>> >> >>>> In the Metron community I see some that share that ethic. They >> selected >> >> a >> >>>> PMC Chair that gets it and I trust will serve the project well in >> that >> >> role. >> >>>> >> >>>> Yes, the project is Hortonworks-heavy. But I think they are doing >> things >> >>>> right in terms of the Apache Way. I also intend to participate in the >> >> PMC >> >>>> to help ensure it remains that way. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> Agreed - from what I have seen, Hortonworks as a company understands >> the >> >>> Apache Way and is able to ensure that it is held in open source >> projects. >> >>> I see no concerns with Metron graduating. >> >> >> >> Sure, but the question is not about whether or not HortonWorks >> understands >> >> the Apache Way. It is what happens to Metron if HortonWorks is no >> longer >> >> interested in the project? >> >> >> >> Given the experience with OpenOffice I think we need to always ask >> this. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Dave >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> -Taylor >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> >> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> This is a list of 24 of which 12 are Hortonworks. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Can we assume that the other 12 of which 6 are PPMC are >> unaffiliated? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> What percentage of the commits are coming from Hortonworks >> affiliated >> >>>> contributors? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>> Dave >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Casey Stella <ceste...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Of course, very fair question. Also, yes, the we have 36 >> committers >> >> as >> >>>> all >> >>>>>> PPMC members are committers. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The affiliations are as follows: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Hortonworks: >> >>>>>> * Sheetal Dolas (sheetal_dolas) >> >>>>>> * Larry McCay (lmccay) >> >>>>>> * P. Taylor Goetz (ptgoetz) >> >>>>>> * Ryan Merriman (rmerriman) >> >>>>>> * James Sirota (jsirota) >> >>>>>> * Casey Stella (cstella) >> >>>>>> * David Lyle (lyle) >> >>>>>> * Nick Allen (nickallen) >> >>>>>> * George Vetticaden (gvetticaden) >> >>>>>> * Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli (vinodkv) >> >>>>>> * Kiran Komaravolu (kirankom) >> >>>>>> * Michael Perez (mperez) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Cisco: >> >>>>>> * Debo Dutta (ddutta) >> >>>>>> * Discovery Gerdes (discovery) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Rackspace: >> >>>>>> * Oskar Zabik (smogg) >> >>>>>> * Andrew Hartnett (dev_warlord) >> >>>>>> * Paul Kehrer (reaperhulk) >> >>>>>> * Sean Schulte (sirsean) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> B23: >> >>>>>> * Mark Bittmann (mbittmann) >> >>>>>> * Dave Hirko (dbhirko) >> >>>>>> * Brad Kolarov (bjkolly) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Mantech: >> >>>>>> * Charles Porter (cporter) >> >>>>>> * Ray Urciuoli (rurcioli) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Fogbeam Labs: >> >>>>>> * Phillip Rhodes (prhodes) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:34 PM, P. Taylor Goetz < >> ptgo...@gmail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2017, at 7:38 PM, John D. Ament < >> johndam...@apache.org> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:10 PM P. Taylor Goetz < >> ptgo...@gmail.com >> >>> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> As a mentor, I fully support Metron's graduation. The community >> has >> >>>>>>> come a >> >>>>>>>>> long way, learned to make solid releases, build a sustainable >> >>>> community, >> >>>>>>>>> and follow the Apache Way. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> One minor nit: The paddling status page is missing a few Apache >> >> IDs, >> >>>>>>> but I >> >>>>>>>>> see them in the resolution, so it's an easy fix. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Paddlings are always out of sync :-P >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> One other nit - I'm not sure why you only have 6 committers. I >> >> think >> >>>> you >> >>>>>>>> mean 30 committers (all PMC members are committers). Can you >> >> provide >> >>>> the >> >>>>>>>> associations of PMC members and employers? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Metron PPMC, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Can you respond? 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