Bertrand, On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:57 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi John, > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:57 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > > ....Below is the incubator board report.... > > I object to the paragraphs quoted below about Mark Struberg and Tamaya > and suggest removing them, reworking to avoid mentioning names or > marking them <private>. > I have removed the section from the public report, added a single line indicating a loss of team members, and sent an email (privately) to the PPMC (not PPMS) with a proposed change to go in a private section. > > Our reports are meant to stay online forever, this excerpt is critical > of Mark in a way that's not needed and goes into lots of details about > that "alternative JSR" story, which are not relevant IMO about the > podling's progress overall. > This is where things get hairy for this podling. A JSR was one of their goals since their proposal came through, as can be read on their initial proposal http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TamayaProposal > > Someone made a proposal, it was not accepted, that person left - > that's all typical business in our projects. > > So maybe just summarize this as "a proposal was made for a different > configuration JSR, which the PPMC didn't agree with, resulting in some > people leaving the project" or something like that. > > (there's no PPMS by the way ;-) > Yep, fixed that for them as well. > > -Bertrand, with just my Incubator PMC hat on, nothing more > > > > ...Mark Struberg tried to established his ideas of a configuration JSR. > > Though he was mentoring Tamaya his proposal did not match, what > > we did in the project and could have a large impact on the project. > > Even worse he did not collaborate with the project. > > The main committers and PPMS members of the project did a hangout, > > Where it has been decided that we will NOT change the API in favour of > > the ideas of Mark. On one side we already had that kind of discussion 2 > > years ago and, on the other side an increasing number of people start > to > > use the project, so breaking API changes do not make sense. > > Fortunately the Java community and Oracle did actively get in contact > > with us regarding the planned new “Java EE Configuration JSR” and > > see Tamaya as a very good base for building the configuration JSR with > > similar concepts. Given that one of the original main purposes has been > > achieved. As Mark failed with his ideas, he consequently quit his > > assignment as a project mentor.... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >