Hi Roberta,

Can you ask this on your other thread and include more information about
whether this is a file that has been donated to the ASF or is third-party?

On 12/3/15, 8:40 AM, "Roberta Marton" <roberta.mar...@esgyn.com> wrote:

>I have a question regarding the NOTICE and LICENSE file as it pertains to
>an
>MIT or BSD license.
>If I, for example, have a source file with a copyright notice followed by
>MIT license text, can't I just put the copyright notice in the LICENSE
>file
>with a pointer to the MIT license text (or actually include the text)?
>Do I need to add anything in the NOTICE file?  In
>http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#header-existingcopyright
>seems
>to imply that the copyright should be added to the NOTICE file.
>
>When I look at other projects LICENSE and NOTICE files; everyone seems to
>do
>it differently, even with the same copyright details.
>
>    Regards,
>    Roberta
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com]
>Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 6:16 AM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Cc: lrese...@apache.org
>Subject: Re: apache-website-template git commit: Add LICENSE and NOTICE
>files
>
>On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:17 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> PING
>
>I'd also like to see this addressed.  Licensing documentation for
>Incubator
>sample code should adhere to best practices.
>
>> On 28 November 2015 at 22:59, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 28 November 2015 at 16:26,  <lrese...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>>> +The following components included on this website are distributed
>>>>under
>>>> MIT license :
>>>> +
>>>> +- Jekyll
>>>> +- Jekyll Bootstrap
>>>> +- Bootstrap
>>>> +- jQuery
>>>> +
>>>> +The MIT License (MIT):
>>>> +
>>>> +Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person
>>>> +obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation
>>>> +files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without
>>>> +restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy,
>>>> +modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies
>>>> +of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is
>>>> furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
>>>> +
>>>> +The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be
>>>> +included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
>>>> +
>>>> +THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
>>>> +EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
>>>> +MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND
>>>> +NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS
>>>> +BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN
>>>> +ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN
>>>> +CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
>>>> SOFTWARE.
>>>> +
>>>> +
>>>
>>> The LICENSE looks OK.
>
>+1, it's OK, though I'd make one suggestion.
>
>The addition of the MIT license text minus the copyright notice (the
>intent
>is clearly to generalize so that it applies to 4 different dependencies)
>is
>a bit irregular.  The copyright notice is an integral part of the MIT
>license -- it's actually a license template and is only completed when the
>copyright notice has the owner filled in.
>
>    http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
>
>To addresss the irregularity, I'd suggest either prepending the template
>line `Copyright (c) <year> <copyright holders>` -- or simply omitting the
>text of the MIT license, instead including filepath pointers to where the
>deps can be found in the distro.
>
>>>> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/apache-website-template/blob/
>>>> 9e881e24/NOTICE
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>> diff --git a/NOTICE b/NOTICE
>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>> index 0000000..a4fed15
>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>> +++ b/NOTICE
>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@
>>>
>>> The ASF Copright header is missing
>>>
>>> See http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice
>>>
>
>+1
>
>Just the copyright notice, i.e. this:
>
>  Apache [PRODUCT_NAME]
>  Copyright [yyyy] The Apache Software Foundation
>
>Actually, what should "[PRODUCT_NAME]" be in this case?
>
>>>> +This product includes software developed at The Apache Software
>>>> +Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
>>>> +
>>>
>>> That paragraph is OK
>>>
>>>> +This product uses Jekyll software (http://jekyllrb.com/) Copyright
>>>> +(c) 2008-2015 Tom Preston-Werner
>>>> +
>>>> +This product includes Boostrap software (http://getbootstrap.com/)
>>>> +Copyright (c) 2011-2015 Twitter, Inc
>>>> +
>>>> +This product includes jQuery software (http://jquery.com/)
>>>> +Copyright jQuery Foundation and other contributors,
>>>> +https://jquery.org/
>>>
>>> AFAICT these 3 attributions are NOT necessary for MIT licensed code,
>>> see
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#permissive-deps
>
>+1, those should definitely be removed.
>
>Marvin Humphrey
>
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