Just looked over Bertrand's document and I must say while I had high
expectations Bertrand has managed to surpass them.  That this is a
functional and itemized list of details is just perfect- even better that
there are citations and references along with it!

Excellent job Bertrand!

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I concur, and similarly pushed back just a few days ago on another
> suggestion of such "policy".
>
> Not really sure that an ASF-wide metric is appropriate (ie. all communities
> are different, and freedom to set their own path is important), but there
> is definitely value in some in the model. It can with provide
> insight/review, and critical thinking about a community.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
> > If we are to use the maturity model as the guideline regarding podling
> > graduation, then certainly the model should be voted on and approved
> > by the membership as *the* model for the ASF, right?
> >
> > Basically, it looks to me that the model is proposing and creating
> policy,
> > and this is something that needs to be done 'correctly', if you get my
> > meaning.
> >
> > > On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Incubator PMC,
> > >
> > > FYI I have started an experiment at
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-groovy/blob/master/MATURITY.adoc ,
> > > using our maturity model to evaluate Groovy before its mentors suggest
> > > its graduation (which should happen very soon).
> > >
> > > So far this has helped uncover a few issues that we (at least I)
> > > hadn't noticed otherwise. Nothing major, but interesting, and I think
> > > it can be useful for the IPMC and Board once they have to decide to
> > > graduate the podling.
> > >
> > > -Bertrand
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