On 4/27/15 10:05 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < > ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote: > >> It's a tough one. We could be setting a precedence here that we absolutely >> do not want to set. On the other hand, it's problematic (not to mention >> simply ridiculous) if the foundation not being able to use Apache software >> because we don't pay for development and might want to submit a patch >> upstream. >> >> As long as all committers are equal and earn their merit in the >> traditional way I don't see a problem from the projects side. IN this >> instance the ASF is just another contributor to the project. >> >> This means "the foundation never pays for development" to something like >> "the foundation never pays for development except where the modification is >> made as part of our normal infrastructure operations. On these rare >> occasions the foundation is just another employer and the contributor is >> just another community member. Changes are contributed upstream through the >> normal contribution process. There is no special role for ASF infra >> contractors."
Yes, that's a separate and important point. Every project PMC determines merit for their project independently. Just because someone is root@ does not mean they get a free committer bit on project X or binding votes - unless that PMC votes them in. >> > > The ASF pays for Infra contractors. Their job/role is to maintain our > systems. Sometimes their duty *may* be to contribute software to $Project > (wherever that may be). It's pretty simple. Infra contractors are responsible to code/maintain software and systems that the ASF needs to operate, including a variety of services that we provide to our projects. Their duty is to build stuff the ASF needs for our own operations. It doesn't matter where that code goes; Whimsy is no more special than STeVe is for that matter. > That is *very* distinct from paying a person to contribute directly to > $ASFProject. Exactly. The ASF does not pay infra contractors to write code for anyone else - only for our own organization's needs. Luckily, some of those needs require software that may also be useful for the rest of the world - but our own needs are what we do paid work for. I don't see this being a problem. 8-) - Shane > > Cheers, > -g > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
