On Dec 30, 2014 10:27 AM, "John D. Ament" <john.d.am...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon Dec 29 2014 at 9:50:49 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 12/21/2014 11:14 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > > I don't particularly like that idea. For one, I know that if I were to > > see > > > 50%+ of mentors on a project I'm a mentor on sign off on the report, I'm > > > probably going to look at things, but not add my signature. Not out of > > > laziness, but in seeing that others are dealing with it as well and my > > > signature is just more "noise" on the report. > > > > And as someone reviewing that report, it is *absolutely* not just noise. > > It tells me that the mentors are engaged, and that are in tune with what > > the podling is doing, and that the podling is listening to their mentors > > are are learning the ropes. > > > > Podlings that have 100% mentor signoff indicate that everything is going > > perfectly, and there's no reason for concern. > > > > Absolutely not just noise. Take the extra 2 seconds to add your sign off. > > > > I disagree. Checking a check box is much different than adding meaningful > comments, either on mailing lists or on the report itself. > > For example, which gives you better info that I feel confident in Tamaya's > board report. > > My check here: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014 > > or my comments in this thread: > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-tamaya-dev/201411.mbox/%3CCAOqetn8wkYuDNkTwkpKKOGzu%3Ds_cf4VMT5A9_e8mdpM6mOh-6Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > All the check does (from my point of view) is give someone a brief summary > that things are looking good. The check mark doesn't imply any due > diligence on the mentor's part. It's very misleading to see it that way. > Take a look for example at the log4cxx2 podling's report. It has mentor > sign off, but the contents are barely present. The only reason it has > mentor sign off is because the mentor wrote the report, after I (as the > shepherd) reminded the podling. > >
I was referring to tlp pmc chairs reporting to the board.
