Sounds good. I will request to be IPMC member, that will help. Thanks, Daniel
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ah so I stand corrected. > But I am not sure if then your VOTE will bind once the project going > to incubator. > It would probably help for SAMOA to have you as member of IPMCs. > > > - Henry > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Daniel Dai <dai...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh, I am under the impression that mentor has to be IPMC member, but > > champion can be either IPMC member or Apache member: > > > > "Where the Champion is not a Member of the Foundation (i.e. is an Officer > > only), the Champion shall be a member of the PMC of the Sponsor."( > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html) > > > > Isn't it? > > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:59 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I was not saying to stop it but Daniel needs to send request to > >> > private@ list make sure he is part of IPMCs. > >> > >> Agreed, sorry if my wording sounded differently. > >> > >> rgds > >> jan i > >> > >> > > >> > - Henry > >> > > >> > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:48 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org > <javascript:;>> > >> > wrote: > >> > > On Thursday, December 4, 2014, Henry Saputra < > henry.sapu...@gmail.com > >> > <javascript:;>> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Daniel, > >> > >> > >> > >> Small formality, as I remember champion has to be member of IPMC in > >> > >> which you are not. > >> > >> Since you are a member of ASF, you can just send email to > >> > >> private@incubator.a.o to be added as member of IPMC. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > I agree we need formalities to be in order, but in this case its > really > >> > > only paperwork, so lets not stop the process for the project. > >> > > > >> > > just my opinion. > >> > > rgds > >> > > jan i > >> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> - Henry > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Daniel Dai <dai...@gmail.com > >> > <javascript:;> > >> > >> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > >> > > >> > >> > I would like to propose SAMOA as an Apache Incubator project. > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SAMOAProposal > >> > >> > > >> > >> > I've posted posted the text of the proposal below: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Thanks, > >> > >> > Daniel > >> > >> > > >> > >> > = SAMOA = > >> > >> > == Abstract == > >> > >> > SAMOA is an an open-source platform for mining big data streams. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Proposal == > >> > >> > SAMOA provides a collection of distributed streaming algorithms > for > >> > the > >> > >> > most common data mining and machine learning tasks such as > >> > >> classification, > >> > >> > clustering, and regression, as well as programming abstractions > to > >> > >> develop > >> > >> > new algorithms that run on top of distributed stream processing > >> > engines > >> > >> > (DSPEs). It features a pluggable architecture that allows it to > run > >> on > >> > >> > several DSPEs such as Apache Storm, Apache S4, and Apache Samza. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Background == > >> > >> > Hadoop and its ecosystem have changed the way data are processed > by > >> > >> > allowing to push algorithms to unprecedented scale. As an > example, > >> > Mahout > >> > >> > allows to run data mining and machine learning algorithms on very > >> > large > >> > >> > datasets. However, Hadoop and Mahout are not suited to handle > >> > streaming > >> > >> > data. Simply put, the goal of SAMOA is to provide a streaming > >> > counterpart > >> > >> > to Mahout. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Rationale == > >> > >> > SAMOA aims to fill the current gap in tools for mining large > scale > >> > >> streams. > >> > >> > Many organizations can benefit from a scalable stream mining > >> platform > >> > >> > system such as SAMOA. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > SAMOA is a natural fit for the Apache Software Foundation. It is > >> > licensed > >> > >> > under the ASL v2.0. It already interoperates with several > existing > >> > Apache > >> > >> > projects such as Storm, S4, and Samza. Furthermore, it is > >> > complementary > >> > >> to > >> > >> > existing Apache projects such as Mahout. The initial committers > are > >> > >> > familiar with the Apache process and subscribes to the Apache > >> mission. > >> > >> > Indeed, the team includes multiple Apache committers. Finally, > >> joining > >> > >> > Apache will help coordinate the development effort of the growing > >> > number > >> > >> of > >> > >> > organizations which contribute to SAMOA. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Initial Goals == > >> > >> > * Move the existing codebase to Apache > >> > >> > * Integrate with the Apache development process > >> > >> > * Incremental development and releases per Apache guidelines > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Current Status == > >> > >> > SAMOA started as a research project at Yahoo Labs in 2013 and was > >> > >> > open-sourced in October the same year. It has been under > development > >> > on > >> > >> > Yahoo's public GitHub repository since being open-sourced. It has > >> > >> undergone > >> > >> > two releases (0.1, 0.2). > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Meritocracy === > >> > >> > The SAMOA project already operates on meritocratic principles. > >> Today, > >> > >> SAMOA > >> > >> > has several developers and has accepted multiple patches from > >> outside > >> > of > >> > >> > Yahoo Labs. However, our intent with this incubator proposal is > to > >> > start > >> > >> > building a more diverse developer community around SAMOA that > >> follows > >> > the > >> > >> > Apache meritocracy model. We will identify all committers and > PPMC > >> > >> members > >> > >> > for the project operating under the ASF meritocratic principles. > We > >> > plan > >> > >> to > >> > >> > continue support for new contributors and work with those who > >> > contribute > >> > >> > significantly to the project to make them committers. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Community === > >> > >> > SAMOA is currently being used internally at Yahoo. Acceptance > into > >> the > >> > >> > Apache foundation would bolster the existing user and developer > >> > community > >> > >> > around SAMOA. That community includes contributors from several > >> > >> > institutions, active mostly on GitHub's pages. SAMOA has been > >> starred > >> > >> more > >> > >> > than 300 times and forked more than 50 times on GitHub as of > >> November > >> > >> 2014. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Core Developers === > >> > >> > The core developers are a diverse group, many of which already > very > >> > >> > experienced with open source. There are two existing Apache > >> > committers, > >> > >> > along with people from various companies and universities. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Alignment === > >> > >> > The ASF is the natural choice to host SAMOA. First, its goal of > >> > >> encouraging > >> > >> > community-driven open-source projects fits with our vision for > >> SAMOA. > >> > >> > Additionally, many other projects that SAMOA is based on, such as > >> > Apache > >> > >> > Storm, S4, Samza, and HDFS, are hosted by the ASF. Close > proximity > >> of > >> > >> SAMOA > >> > >> > to these projects within the ASF will provide mutual benefit. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Known Risks == > >> > >> > === Orphaned Products === > >> > >> > Given the current level of investment in SAMOA the risk of the > >> project > >> > >> > being abandoned is minimal. There are several constituents who > are > >> > highly > >> > >> > incentivized to continue development, and Yahoo Labs relies on > SAMOA > >> > as a > >> > >> > platform for a large number of long-term research projects. > However, > >> > the > >> > >> > small number of initial committers might be a concern. We plan to > >> > address > >> > >> > this issue during incubation by growing the community and the > number > >> > of > >> > >> > committers. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Inexperience with Open Source === > >> > >> > SAMOA has existed as a healthy open source project for one year. > >> > During > >> > >> > this time, we have curated an open-source community successfully, > >> > >> > attracting developers from a diverse group of universities and > >> > companies > >> > >> > including Huawei, Yahoo, University of Porto, and Universitat > >> > Politecnica > >> > >> > de Catalunya. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Gianmarco is a committer for Apache Pig, Matthieu for Apache S4. > >> > Albert > >> > >> is > >> > >> > one of the lead developers of MOA, an open-source tool for > streaming > >> > >> > machine learning. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Homogenous Developers === > >> > >> > The initial list of committers includes developers from several > >> > >> > institutions, both academic and industrial. The committers are > >> > >> > geographically distributed across Europe, America, and Asia. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Reliance on Salaried Developers === > >> > >> > Like most open source projects, SAMOA receives a substantial > support > >> > from > >> > >> > salaried developers. In addition, those working from within > >> > corporations > >> > >> > often devote “after hours” or spare time in the project - and > these > >> > come > >> > >> > from several organizations. We will work to ensure the ability > for > >> the > >> > >> > project to continuously be stewarded and to proceed forward > >> > independently > >> > >> > of salaried developers. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Relationship with Other Apache Products === > >> > >> > SAMOA interoperates with several existing Apache project, mainly > by > >> > using > >> > >> > them as stream processing engines: Apache Storm, Apache S4, and > >> Apache > >> > >> > Samza. It also uses several other Apache components, including > >> Apache > >> > >> Maven > >> > >> > and several Apache Commons libraries. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand === > >> > >> > SAMOA is already a healthy and relatively well known open source > >> > project. > >> > >> > This proposal is not for the purpose of generating publicity. > >> Rather, > >> > the > >> > >> > primary benefits to joining Apache are those outlined in the > >> Rationale > >> > >> > section. We are more interested in establishing a strong > community > >> > that > >> > >> can > >> > >> > drive the project independently of Yahoo. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Documentation == > >> > >> > The reader will find these websites relevant: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > * SAMOA website: http://samoa-project.net/ > >> > >> > * SAMOA documentation: https://github.com/yahoo/samoa/wiki/ > >> > >> > * Issue tracking: https://github.com/yahoo/samoa/issues > >> > >> > * Codebase: https://github.com/yahoo/samoa > >> > >> > * User group: http://groups.google.com/group/samoa-user > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Initial Source == > >> > >> > The SAMOA codebase is currently hosted on GitHub: > >> > >> > https://github.com/yahoo/samoa. This is the exact codebase that > we > >> > would > >> > >> > migrate to the Apache foundation. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan == > >> > >> > Currently, the SAMOA codebase is distributed under an Apache > license > >> > >> v2.0. > >> > >> > The vast majority of code has copyright held by Yahoo. Upon > entering > >> > the > >> > >> > Incubator, Yahoo will grant a license to the Apache foundation. > In > >> > >> certain > >> > >> > cases where individuals or organizations hold copyright, we will > >> > ensure > >> > >> > they grant a license to the Apache foundation. Going forward, all > >> > commits > >> > >> > will be licensed directly to the Apache foundation through our > >> signed > >> > >> > Individual Contributor License Agreements for all committers on > the > >> > >> project. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Cryptography == > >> > >> > We do not expect SAMOA to be a controlled export item due to the > use > >> > of > >> > >> > encryption. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == External Dependencies == > >> > >> > To the best of our knowledge, all dependencies of SAMOA are > >> > distributed > >> > >> > under Apache compatible licenses. Upon acceptance to the > incubator, > >> we > >> > >> > would begin a thorough analysis of all transitive dependencies to > >> > verify > >> > >> > this fact and introduce license checking into the build and > release > >> > >> process > >> > >> > (for instance integrating Apache Rat). > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Required Resources == > >> > >> > === Mailing Lists === > >> > >> > We will migrate the existing SAMOA mailing lists as follows: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > * samoa-users@googlegroups --> us...@samoa.incubator.apache.org > >> > <javascript:;> > >> > >> <javascript:;> > >> > >> > * samoa-developers@googlegroups --> > d...@samoa.incubator.apache.org > >> > <javascript:;> > >> > >> <javascript:;> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > SAMOA commits are hosted on GitHub, so we would request the > >> following > >> > >> > mailing list: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > * comm...@samoa.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> > <javascript:;> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > We would also request the following mailing list: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > * priv...@samoa.incubator.apache.org <javascript:;> > <javascript:;> > >> > (with moderated > >> > >> subscription) > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Source control === > >> > >> > The SAMOA team would like to use Git for source control, due to > our > >> > >> current > >> > >> > use of Git. We request a writeable Git repo for SAMOA, and > mirroring > >> > to > >> > >> be > >> > >> > set up to GitHub through INFRA. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > * https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator-samoa.git > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Issue Tracking === > >> > >> > SAMOA currently uses GitHub for issue tracking. We will migrate > to > >> the > >> > >> > Apache JIRA instance. http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SAMOA > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Initial Committers & Affiliations == > >> > >> > * Albert Bifet, Huawei, <abifet at waikato dot ac dot nz> > >> > >> > * Gianmarco De Francisci Morales, Yahoo Labs, <gdfm at apache dot > >> org> > >> > >> > * Nicolas Kourtellis, Yahoo Labs, <nkourtellis at gmail dot com> > >> > >> > * Matthieu Morel, Yahoo Labs, <mmorel at apache dot org> > >> > >> > * Arinto Murdopo, Living Analytics Research Centre, <arintom at > smu > >> > dot > >> > >> edu > >> > >> > dot sg> > >> > >> > * Olivier Van Laere, BlueShift Labs, <olivier at getblueshift dot > >> com> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > == Sponsors == > >> > >> > === Champion === > >> > >> > * Daniel Dai <daijy at apache dot org> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Nominated Mentors === > >> > >> > * Alan Gates <gates at apache dot org> > >> > >> > * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org> > >> > >> > * Ashutosh Chauhan <hashutosh at apache dot org> > >> > >> > * Enis Soztutar <enis at apache dot org> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > === Sponsoring Entity === > >> > >> > The Apache Incubator > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> > <javascript:;> > >> > >> <javascript:;> > >> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > <javascript:;> > >> > >> <javascript:;> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> > <javascript:;> > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > <javascript:;> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings. > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
