+0

concerns being:
- would this project be better suited as a part an existing ASF project,
AOO or ODF Toolkit
- what is the impact of code from UX Write not being included as a part of
the proposal to the project
- would like to see more mentors added

-Jake

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:08 PM, jan i <j...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> As champion for corinthia, I hereby ask for a vote on accepting corinthia
> into incubator.
>
> It seems the discussion have died out, in reality most of the discussion
> has been through private mails and IRC/hipchat (which disturbes me). As a
> result the proposal is now more clear about what the project is and what it
> isnt.
>
> We have added a committer and a mentor during the discussion period.
>
> The proposal is available in
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal
> <http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CorinthiaProposal?action=recall&rev=60>
> Remark the vote is for revision #60 (the newest).
> Proposal is added as text to the bottom of this mail.
>
> Please vote
> +1 for accepting corinthia into incubator
> 0 for dont care
> -1 for not accepting corinthia into incubator (please add a reason).
>
> Vote is open until Sunday december 7, 23:30 UTC. If needed the period can
> be prolonged.
>
> Thanks for your vote.
> on behalf of project corinthia
> jan i.
>
>
> ========= PROPOSAL TEXT =======
>
> #pragma section-numbers 2
>
> = Corinthia Podling Proposal =
>
> == Abstract ==
>
> Corinthia is a toolkit for converting between and editing common office
> file formats, with an initial focus on word processing. It is designed to
> cater for multiple classes of platforms - desktop, web, and mobile - and
> relies heavily on web technologies such as HTML, CSS, and JavaScript for
> representing and manipulating documents. The toolkit is small, portable,
> and flexible, with minimal dependencies. The target audience is developers
> wishing to include office viewing, conversion, and editing functionality
> into their applications.
>
> The file format conversion library is implemented in highly-portable C, and
> can be easily embedded in native applications, with bindings for other
> programming languages planned. The library allows two-way conversion
> between different formats, and avoids irreversible loss of content or
> formatting unsupported in a target format by updating the source format in
> a way that makes only the minimal changes necessary.
>
> The editing library is implemented in Java''''''Script, and runs in a
> browser runtime - either an actual web browser, or a web view
> embedded in a native app. It follows the philosophy of responsive design,
> popular on the web, where layout of a document is automatically adapted to
> suit the screen size and orientation, enabling the same content to be
> viewed on mobile phones, tablets, and desktop systems. All layout is
> handled by the browser's own engine; the editor works solely with the
> document's HTML structure and CSS styles. Currently the editor only
> operates in an embedded web view, but we plan to have it run in all major
> web browsers, and provide a clean API for easy integration into various
> native apps.
>
> Importantly, Corinthia document viewing and editing is on the intermediate
> form (HTML & CSS), limited to common, widely-supported features. Corinthia
> is not a comprehensive substitute for format-specific authoring, editing,
> and final-form printing/production software. It is intended to complement,
> not compete with, major office suites.
>
> Identification and confirmation of inter-convertible features of different
> formats for dependable import and export involves development of extensive
> test documents in the different formats.  There is profiling of the extent
> to which standardized formats are supported in practice, with
> identification of deviations and implementation-dependent choices that
> impact convertibility.
>
> == Proposal ==
>
> The goal of Corinthia is to provide a responsive design editor as well as a
> toolkit that enacts a defined conversion between different office document
> formats. Responsive design fits the layout as needed, tablet or desktop.
> The editor is a lightweight editor - an extension and not a replacement for
> the desktop editor.
>
> Many office document programs claim to read/write to the ISO open standards
> for office documents, Open''''''Document Format (ODF) and Office Open XML
> (OOXML), but do not document which parts are left unimplemented.
> Furthermore, the standards have a large number of "implementation defined"
> parts, making real-world congruence chancy. The Corinthia toolkit wants to
> put this unacknowledged aspect into the open and provide "compliance
> sheets" for document formats, as known from industry computer protocols.
>
> Corinthia aims at generating a large set of test documents, which can be
> used to verify the "compliance sheets". The code can work as test case for
> other applications (or entities tendering for OOXML/ODF based systems) as
> well.
>
> The base of Corinthia and its toolkit is the library Doc''''''Formats,
> which converts between different office document file formats. Currently it
> supports .docx (part of the OOXML specification), HTML, and LaTeX
> (export-only). In addition to this is an editing library, which allows
> manipulation of the HTML files in a web browser or embedded web view, and
> can be used in conjunction with Doc''''''Formats to edit documents in all
> supported formats.
>
> The design  of Doc''''''Formats is based on on the idea of bidirectional
> transformation (BDT), in which a specific document (the original file in
> its source format) is converted into an abstract document (in the
> destination format). A modified version of the abstract document can then
> be used to update the specific document in a non-destructive manner,
> keeping intact all parts of the file which are not supported in the
> abstract format by modifying the original file rather than replacing it.
>
> Descriptions of BDT can be found in:
>
>  Aaron Bohannon, J. Nathan Foster, Benjamin C. Pierce et. al. Boomerang:
> Resourceful Lenses for String Data. Technical Report MS-CIS-07-15
> Department of Computer and Information Science University of Pennsylvania.
> November 2007. (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/papers/boomerang.pdf)
>
>  Benjamin Pierce. Foundations for Bidirectional Programming. ICMT2009 -
> International Conference on Model Transformation. June 2009. (
> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/papers/icmt-2009-slides.pdf)
>
> The short term goal of the project is to have an easy-to-integrate library
> that any application can use to embed support for a range of different file
> formats, and use the parsing, serialisation, and conversion facilities for
> various purposes. These include editors, batch conversion tools, web
> publishing systems, document analysis tools, and content management
> systems. By abstracting over different file formats and using HTML as a
> common intermediate format, one can just code an application to that end,
> and let Doc''''''Formats take care of conversion to other formats.
>
> The medium term goal of the project is to have a series of end-user
> applications (separate from the library itself), including an editor and
> file conversion tool. These will serve as examples of how the libraries can
> be used.
>
> And ultimately to have a touch based UI for office documents.
>
> It is also a goal to cooperate with other open source projects, in terms of
> getting input from them as well as providing APIs for their use. Corinthia
> is meant to be easy to understand and work with, making it more
> approachable for a range of projects.
>
> == Background ==
>
> The document conversion library and the editing library have been shipping
> as components of UX Write on the iOS app store since February 2013. Both
> components have undergone continued development since that time. As far as
> UX Write is concerned, they provide a stable and reliable codebase.
>
> As an open source project, Corinthia is completely new, in the sense that
> it is now moving from a single-developer commercial project, to an open,
> community-based project. We believe that this is the most beneficial path
> forward for the technology, to enable it to be developed to its full
> potential, and made available to anyone who needs to deal with multiple
> document formats or provide editing functionality on web, desktop, or
> mobile platforms.
>
> == Rationale ==
>
> Corinthia's approach to providing an editor and thoroughly-documented
> conversion of office documents is perfectly aligned with Apache's mission
> to produce software for the public good.  There is further benefit in
> documented tests demonstrating where implementations of standard formats
> deviate for any reason, identifying where interoperability and
> inter-conversion is improvable.
>
> The project has potential to grow by collaboration with other projects,
> tapping mutual interests and identifying cases for improved
> interoperability, providing new architectures and design philosophies
> available to supplement existing implementations.
>
> Introducing Corinthia in the Apache family of projects provides ready
> availability and participation with the diverse community of experienced
> Apache contributors under convenient familiar conditions.
>
>
> == Initial Goals ==
>
> The initial and most important goal is to enlarge the community consisting
> of developers, testers, and people who know the standards in depth.
>
> There are four technical goals:
>  * Cleanup core, to make it easy to add filters (format converters)
>  * Complete the ODF filter
>  * Produce an editor based on Java''''''Script & HTML which can be embedded
> in mobile apps or used in a Web browser
>  * Develop additional tests and compliance sheets for supported file
> formats
>
> Our initial goals might not be big visions, but we prefer something
> reachable, and then make bigger goals as we grow.
>
> == Current Status ==
>
> === Meritocracy ===
>
> Some of the initial committers are already part of Apache, and those who
> are not are becoming familiar with working in "the Apache way".
>
> === Community ===
>
> Our community could be larger, and committers from AOO and others have
> shown interest in the project, but we have preferred to stay a stable, but
> very active group until we are part of Incubator.
>
> Apache/Incubator provides a lot of tools (e.g., mailing lists) and
> community practices--The Apache Way--that enable community engagement and
> growth.
>
> === Core Developers ===
>
> Peter Kelly,
>
> Jan Iversen,
>
> Svante Schubert,
>
> Dennis E. Hamilton,
>
>
>
> === Alignment ===
>
> Corinthia has commonalities with Apache OpenOffice (AOO), but is not
> competing. AOO is a desktop product and integrated suite and Corinthia is a
> lightweight editor and a developer product (library).
>
> Corinthia has a document API as do Apache POI and the incubating Apache ODF
> Toolit, but the focus is different. Corinthia targets a conversion library
> and an editor. POI and ODF Toolkit provide APIs for processing documents
> and are both Java-based.
>
> Sharing test documents in standard document-file formats with projects like
> AOO and POI is a valuable opportunity.
>
> == Known Risks ==
>
> The biggest risk Corinthia faces is failing to attract a larger community
> (not only developers but also testers and documenters). Actions have been
> taken and will continue to minimize the risk:
>  * Contact to student projects (in particular Capstone)
>  * Talks at Apache''''''Cons
>
> The project uses existing technologies, so there are no real technological
> risks.
>
> There is of course a risk that nobody wants to use the project, but the fun
> building the community and project make this risk bearable.
>
> === Orphaned Products ===
>
> None
>
> === Inexperience with Open Source ===
>
> All initial committers have worked several years with open source.
>
> === Homogenous Developers ===
>
> The initial committers are geographically distributed across the world.
> Half of the initial developers are experienced Apache committers and all
> have experience in working in distributed development communities.
>
> The original source has already been partly refactored by other developers
> to make sure knowledge is spread among multiple people.
>
> === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
>
> No committers are being paid to participate.
>
> Peter Kelly and Louis Suarez-Potts have a company that has added a
> commercial editor for iPad & iPhone on top of the library.
>
> === Relationships with Other Apache Projects ===
>
> Corinthia has/will have a relation to at least the following projects:
>  * '''AOO''', core developers have said on dev@ that for targeting mobile
> platforms, a rewrite of AOO would be better than building on top of the
> existing sources. It is our hope to have long and beneficial interaction
> with AOO.
>  * '''Httpd''', we would like to make a module that on the fly presents
> odf/ooxml documents as pure HTML.
>  * '''POI''', Corinthia library is similar to POI, but simpler, more
> generic, and written in C instead of Java. We hope to be able to share
> know-how as well as test cases.
>
> Corinthia is based on document standards which are used by numerous
> high-profile projects. We would like to cooperate with the projects to
> exchange knowledge.
>
> == Documentation ==
>
> The current documentation can be found at
> https://github.com/uxproductivity/Corinthia/wiki
>
> The project is aware that this is work in progress and there is special
> attention on this task.
>
> == Initial Source ==
>
> The source originated as part of the UX Write product. The file format
> conversion library, Doc''''''Formats, and the Java''''''Script + HTML5
> editor are now under Apache License version 2 (ALv2).
>
> The iOS-specific code from UX Write is not part of the grant and remains
> closed source.
>
> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
>
> Source code will be moved from the Git''''''Hub uxproductivity/Corinthia
> repository when the incubator repository is set up.  The content of the
> repository will be included in a cCLA grant from Peter Kelly.  All original
> contributors are aligned with movement to an Apache Podling.
>
>
> == External Dependencies ==
>
> The current source includes two third-party libraries to which minor
> modifications have been made(
>
> https://github.com/uxproductivity/Corinthia/tree/stable/DocFormats/3rdparty/external
> ).
>
>  * '''minizip''', a layer on top of zlib,
> http://www.winimage.com/zLibDll/minizip.html
>  * '''w3c-tidy-html5''', an HTML5 manipulation library,
> https://github.com/w3c/tidy-html5
>
> The changes made to the original sources are undocumented. The plan is to
> have pristine sources with documented changes in some manner.  The existing
> licenses are ALv2 compatible and are honored.  Any changes in the
> adaptation for Corinthia that are meaningful patches for the original code
> will be contributed upstream.
>
> Furthermore, Corinthia depends on
>  * libxml2, http://xmlsoft.org
>  * zlib, http://www.zlib.net
>  * Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL), http://www.libsdl.org/
>  * Showdown, http://github.com/showdownjs/showdown
>
>
> == Cryptography ==
>
> Corinthia does not use cryptography nor does it delivery any cryptographic
> functions.
>
> == Required Resources ==
>
>
> === Mailing Lists ===
>
>  * corinthia-...@incubator.apache.org for general discussions
>
>  * corinthia-priv...@incubator.apache.org for private discussions
>
>  * corinthia-iss...@incubator.apache.org for issue-tracker notifications
>
> === Subversion Directory ===
>
>  * https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/corinthia
>    for management of the incubator web site
>
> === Git Repository ===
>
> Our current git repository is on Git''''''Hub (
> https://github.com/uxproductivity/Corinthia).
>
> It will be migrated to
>
>  * ASF Git repository incubator-corinthia.git
>
> And mirrored at github through the apache organization.
>
>
> === Issue Tracking ===
>
>  A JIRA issue tracker is requested.
>
> === Other Resources ===
>
>  * Wiki: We are currently using github wiki, we would like to move to an
> Apache supported wiki (preferable mediawiki), before our documentation
> becomes difficult to move.
>
>  * Buildbot: We would like to be able to build/test on OSX, Windows and
> Ubuntu.
>
>  * Code signing: It is desirable to provide OS-compliant digital signatures
> with project-created convenience binaries of compiled libraries, utilities,
> and client applications.
>
>  * Web: We would like, if possible, to have the home page
> corinthia.incubator.apache.org (just raw html please).
>
>  * Blog: We would like to have a blog, preferable wordpress.
>
>
> == Initial Committers ==
>
>
>     Dennis E Hamilton, orc...@apache.org
>
>     Dorte Fjalland, do...@casacondor.com (ICLA recorded)
>
>     Jan Iversen, j...@apache.org
>
>     Louis Suárez-Potts, lo...@apache.org
>
>     Peter Kelly, pe...@uxproductivity.com (ICLA recorded)
>
>     Svante Schubert, svanteschub...@apache.org
>
> == Affiliations ==
>
> None
>
> == Sponsors ==
>
> === Champion ===
>
> Jan Iversen
>
> === Nominated Mentors ===
>
> Jan Iversen (IPMC)
>
> Daniel Gruno (IPMC)
>
>
> === Sponsoring Entity ===
>
> Incubator IPMC.
>

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