On 14 November 2014 21:38, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 5:18 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > In the vote thread about [1] a question came up about the following > > clause, from our IP clearance form: > > > >> Check and make sure that the files that have been donated have been > >> updated to reflect the new ASF copyright. > > > > I think this actually covers two distinct things: > > > > 1) Moving any existing non-Apache copyright notices to a NOTICE file, > > if the owner of the donated code wants that, or otherwise removing > > them or making them smaller to avoid bloating the code with multiple > > copyright notices., if possible. All done by whoever donates the code > > - as per the "Should a project move non-ASF copyright notices from > > Apache source files to the NOTICE file?" section in [2], we don't want > > to that ourselves. > > > > 2) Adding Apache copyright/license headers where required > > > > IMO there's no need for 2) to happen before the donation, that just > > has to happen before the first release of that code. > > > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html > > > I agree with this. > The FAQ at the bottom of [2] says that it applies to all releases > occurring after $date. > Source without ASF headers is not an issue until you release. (And > indeed, many things that we don't release do not contain such > headers.) > I am sorry, but I really do not understand why the release is THE moment. If we wait to change the headers until a release, but do other changes in the file before that, these changes are done with the old license, and as a consequence, headers can only be changed with the written approval of the original donator as well as the people who have made changes later (independent whether or not they have filed a icla).....why do we want that extra complication.
Remeber the license in the file precedes any cla the developer might or might not have filed. I agree that for files without changes a release is the latest moment. rgds jan I. > > > 1) should be taken care of before the IP Clearance. > As Marvin notes below, the inclusion of a header does not change its > legal status, it merely is present for clarity (and because policy > demands it in released files) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
