Is it worth a thought to require that new podlings find a champion who is
not employed by the same organization?


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Definitely +1, active members, with lack diversity, are more useful.
>
> My original comment was to suggest having mentors come from different
> organizations so hopefully could help provide different perspectives
> and inputs to the podling.
> Never my intention to suggest false diversity to start an Apache
> incubator project.
>
> - Henry
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Chris Douglas <cdoug...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> > So, I am fond of Henry's hope that the project will solicit a more
> >> diversified
> >> > set of mentors and initial committers.
> >>
> >> The committer and PPMC list should be honest. If there is no
> >> diversity, that fact must be visible for it to be tracked.
> >>
> >> Initial committers are a dodge that demonstrates nothing about the
> >> project's willingness to not only accept, but attract new ideas. The
> >> viability of an OSS project is not inaccurately *defined* as its
> >> ability to compete for that attention. Demanding pro forma adherence
> >> to heuristics is a harmful lesson to podlings, unless the goal is to
> >> teach them to evade accountability. -C
> >
> >
> > +1 to this.
> >
> > Sham committers are more of a pain than lack of diversity, as much as I
> > dislike sock-puppet projects.
>
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