On 30 May 2013 08:08, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > Looking in poddling.xml there are 3 poddlings marked "dormant" and nearly > 30 marked "retired". The 3 dormant ones are from ages ago and looking back > in the archives its from when there wasn't a documented retirement process > and people didn't really know what to call it. IMHO the simplest thing to > avoid this confusion would be to just change the status of Juice, > SocialSite, and TripleSoup in podling.xml from dormant to retired. If it > maters at all, AFAICT the main thing back then was some status that stopped > the poddling getting included in the reporting schedule, and either status > does that.
+1 > ...ant > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Christian Grobmeier > <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:36 PM, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I agree with Mark and John, the terms mean different things, and the term >> > "retired" is reasonably well understood now and mentioned in various >> places >> > in the Incubator documentation so wouldn't it be better to keep it as is? >> >> Question comes up from time to time, I don't see it's well understood. >> >> > Are there really any dormant poddlings? If so probably they are really >> > retired now and they should just be changed to that. >> >> Were there ever dormant podlings? >> >> Maybe there is a difference in the terms itself, but when ever we saw >> a podling became inactive we would discuss to retire them. Not sure >> anybody ever said "oh we have no committers, but I have heard next >> month comes a bunch of them". Or if there is just little activity, >> would you really go to a project and tell them they are dormant now >> and will retire in a few months? This all is just more overhead with >> no benefit for me. >> >> Cheers >> Christian >> >> > >> > ...ant >> > >> > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> If no one minds I will change them all to dormant, since all are welcome >> >> back to the fold, should they so desire. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> >> >> >> On May 27, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM, John D. Ament < >> john.d.am...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> I think the terms mean different things, from the incubator >> perspective. >> >> >> >> >> >> Dormant - we're not active enough right now for a full community, but >> >> >> believe later on we can build it back up. >> >> >> Retired - we've given up all hope of becoming a TLP, instead we think >> >> it's >> >> >> best to archive the code/move it to github/move it to bitbucket and >> >> allow >> >> >> others who want to work on it to just grab it and go. >> >> > >> >> > The difference is one goes to github and one does not? >> >> > >> >> > After this interpretation I would expect dormant projects to retire. >> >> > Retired projects >> >> > can be revived too. It does not matter if there was something on >> GitHub >> >> or not. >> >> > >> >> > Not enough for me to maintain two terms. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Just my 2 cents.. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Christian Grobmeier < >> >> grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Alan Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com >> > >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>>> Yeah, I like the word dormant as well. Should we rename them all >> to >> >> >>> dormant? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> +1 from me. So far I don't see any difference in the end. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Regards, >> >> >>>> Alan >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> On May 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>>> I think it was just a question of 'retiring' sounding too final. >> >> Using >> >> >>>>> the word 'dormant' was less threatening, and made it more feasible >> >> for >> >> >>>>> the podlings to go, well, dormant. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Upayavira >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013, at 05:39 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> >> >>>>>> They kinda sound the same. Why didn't podlings want to retire? >> >> Does >> >> >>>>>> anyone know? >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> Regards, >> >> >>>>>> Alan >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> On May 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier < >> >> grobme...@gmail.com> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> I asked the same question in july 2011, and got a response from >> >> Henri >> >> >>>>>>> Yandell which I repost here: >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> "Given the PPMC is closed down, I think it has to be retired. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Dormant implies a PPMC is taking some time off. >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Basically this is a larger version of "don't be afraid to >> delete a >> >> >>>>>>> line of code; it's in version control". >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> Hen" >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alan Cabrera < >> a...@toolazydogs.com >> >> > >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>> Looking at the podlings.xml and it's not clear to me what the >> >> >>> difference is. I'm sure I neglected to read some documentation bit. >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Regards, >> >> >>>>>>>> Alan >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >> >>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >> >>>>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >> >>> https://www.timeandbill.de >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > http://www.grobmeier.de >> >> > https://www.timeandbill.de >> >> > >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> https://www.timeandbill.de >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
