On May 11, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A real experiment with 'probationary projects' would have to model the
> entire process of a new project launching with  _no IPMC_ to
> participate in any way.

Can you explain what problem launching new projects with _no IPMC_ to 
participate in any way solves?  Maybe this is where the disconnect is.  Is the 
IPMC the problem or is it the lack of mentors the problem?

What are the core problems that you are trying to solve?

> Taking a proposal that has been groomed and
> vetted at the IPMC and then launching the resulting project to the
> board is purely an experiment in board supervision.

Can you explain what is it about the board that's better than having the board 
members with the spare bandwidth coming over to the IPMC to help?  What is it 
about the auspices of the board that improves things?  What is the exact 
problem that this solves?

> My personal thought is this: new project creation is not a 'project',
> it's a function of the Foundation. If the committee currently
> constituted by the board to handle this isn't working well enough, and
> can't agree on what to do, it is an issue for the board to consider.
> The board could decide to keep what we are, arguments and all. It
> could constitute a small (and thus consensus-prone) committee to
> survey the terrain and make a recommendation. It could tell the whiney
> VP to JFDI -- make some decisions and get on with it. (Consensus is
> desirable, but read one of the board resolutions that installs a VP.)

That depends on what the problem is.  If the IPMC is paralyzed then yes, the 
board should step in.  I didn't realize that we're there already.  If we are 
then please be explicit about it.

But I don't understand why we can't go through the simple exercise that I 
propose to see where we have points in common.  I think that doing so will go a 
long way to generating good will, as people's positions will be analyzed down 
to their core, and provide better transparency as to what people's motivations 
are.

I'm saying this because I really don't understand why people are espousing 
these various solutions.  I want to understand but at the moment it just seems 
that people are holding on to their positions without explaining their thoughts 
down to the core problems that they think they are trying to solve.

In the end, I think if we're really serous about this we'll end up with bits of 
everyone's proposals.


Regards,
Alan

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