Hi Edward,

As you might know, generally speaking for PMC's merit is not transferable. But 
IPMC has one exception any member of the foundation can simply ask to be added 
(it still goes through the normal workflow of board acknowledgement and such, 
but without a formal IPMC voting). If the requester is not a member, IPMC also 
has to discuss and vote based on contributions, interest to help out just like 
any other PMC. Such requests to join should go to the private list. See [1]  
"Mentors MUST be on the IPMC. Any prospective Mentors who are not yet on the 
IPMC should ask to be added (by election). Email the application to 
priv...@incubator.apache.org. This process may take a few days."

I can see the source of your confusion both for asking on the general list and 
also interpreting an officer can be a champion. Its a misunderstanding, no 
worries. Your enthusiasm to help MRQL is certainly appreciated and once we have 
a IPMC member volunteer to champion the podling, everything should be back on 
track. I do not think MRQL will be hampered, just a delay. Its parked on the 
runway waiting to take off soon. Meanwhile sit back relax and have fun hacking. 
 

Suresh

[1] - http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html

On Mar 15, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Edward J. Yoon <edwardy...@apache.org> wrote:

> The reason of opening here is that I see mails like "Request to join
> IPMC"[1]. Moreover I already sent a mail to private@ at Feb 27.
> 
> 1. 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201202.mbox/%3c87945f79-c905-4cdf-af5b-d7a9b54f3...@gmail.com%3E
> 
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Suresh Marru <sma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 3:26 AM, Edward J. Yoon <edwardy...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> understand why virtually all ASF projects adhere to that convention
>>>>> now?
>>> 
>>> P.S., It's been 6 years since I uploaded my first patch on HBase. I
>>> still don't know many things but I'm continuously learning from you
>>> guys ;-)
>> 
>> Hi Edward,
>> 
>> I do not think any one is questioning your credibility as a committer, or 
>> pmc member. I think Marvin hit it right and straight forward way. At ASF one 
>> of the few things (and primarily the only thing) like adding to a PMC is 
>> handled on private lists. Given that you have been contributing since 6 
>> years you are certainly expected to know it. It is not healthy to side track 
>> the issue with your contributions or citing emotional reasons.
>> 
>> Suresh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Edward J. Yoon <edwardy...@apache.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I think I'm not familiar with handling issues like personnel, and
>>>> somewhat emotional person.
>>>> 
>>>> However, I want to helping people who want to contribute to ASF or
>>>> collaborate with ASF projects in the future.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Marvin Humphrey <mar...@rectangular.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Edward, are you not familiar with our custom of handling personnel
>>>>> matters on private lists? It has not always been that way, but do you
>>>>> understand why virtually all ASF projects adhere to that convention
>>>>> now?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Edward J. Yoon <edwardy...@apache.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just noticed that Mentor must be members of the Incubator PMC[1].
>>>>>> Regarding MRQL podling, I'm not only Champion but also want to be a
>>>>>> Mentor for MRQL project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please add me to IPMC.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. 
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
>>>>>> @eddieyoon
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>>>> @eddieyoon
>>> 
>>> 
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