Hi Kasper,

One suggestion is to remove the "Contributors with known interest if
project is accepted in Incubator" section and only add contributors that
really want to get the project going.

I could see this could be very useful for projects like Apache Gora or
pluggable query component for Apache Drill.

I would like to volunteer to become mentor and initial committer for this
project to get it rolling.

Thanks,

Henry


On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
kasper.soren...@humaninference.com> wrote:

> Christian, your point regarding number of active contributors is valid and
> this is in deed also something that we feel is a risk to the project. I
> would say though that Human Inference is committed to continue the effort
> even if I should personally stop committing to it - reason being that the
> software stack we have here is highly dependent on MetaModel. Right now we
> are simply  in a situation where I am the key go-to-guy when there's
> MetaModel related work involved. Often we pair program on these tasks, but
> commit through my account.
>
> The other side of the story is that we have several testers that
> contribute a lot in terms of bug reports and so on. But because we're a
> closed company these reports are typically going first through our internal
> bugtracker and then into the trac system. At that point in time it will
> typically be me that enters the trac ticket. This is obviously a style of
> closedness that won't work in an Apache situation, and we need to adapt to
> that. But I also believe that we can manage that transition during
> incubation.
>
> As for the "potential" contributors - one have indicated that it is
> important to him that we move MetaModel out of the corporate setting for
> him to sign a contributors agreement. The other (Sameer) actually just told
> me that he would want to contribute anyways, but that the incubation would
> be an additional incentive, because of Apache's brand value. I don't think
> any of us wants a @apache.org email though! :)
>
> Hope that sheds a bit more light on the matter. And thanks for questioning
> this, it gives us opportunity to explain things!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobme...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 11. marts 2013 11:43
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel join the Apache Incubator
>
> I still think this is a nice project and it might fit right into the ASF.
> Currently I am out of time, so I cannot champion this proposal nor can I be
> the  most active mentor. Unfortunately it seems nobody else in the IPMC has
> an interest in helping this proposal.
>
> Looking at:
> http://eobjects.org/trac/timeline
>
> It seems MetaModel is more or less a single-man with a little support from
> two other devs. With less interest from the Incubator and a small dev
> community I am not sure how this project will develop here. If Kasper stops
> to commit, the project is dead.
>
> Two contributors are listed as "have an interest to commit if accepted to
> the ASF". Why didn't they contribute before? It reads a bit like they want
> to have an @apache.org e-mail address than a real interest in the project.
>
> Hopefully other IPMC'lers find some time to comment here too.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Kasper Sørensen <
> kasper.soren...@humaninference.com> wrote:
> > Just for reference, I'd add to Sameer's mail that the proposal is here:
> >
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MetaModelProposal
> >
> > We would very much appreciate if one or more apache champions will help
> us to get further in the process.
> >
> > Kasper
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sameer arora [mailto:sameer11...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 10. marts 2013 05:50
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel join the Apache Incubator
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have been working on Metamodel as a developer for the last 1.5
> years.We are also working on adding Hbase support to Metamodel to cater the
> needs of today.
> >
> > It would be great to see Metamodel accepted at Apache Incubator, surely
> the efforts from us would gain some momentum.
> >
> > Sameer
> >
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