Hi Niall, and Greg, Just to echo Greg, +1, yes would have preferred it to have happened in the existing community then.
Also, agree with Greg -- exceptions can be permitted from time to time, but I don't think graduation into existing TLP should be an accepted norm. Cheers, Chris On 3/1/13 8:55 PM, "Greg Stein" <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Mar 1, 2013 8:33 PM, "Niall Pemberton" <niall.pember...@gmail.com> >wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I concur with Chris, and want to strengthen/meta the point. The >Incubator >> > should not be used for projects which are intended to become part of >>an >> > existing TLP. The Incubator *creates* Apache-style communities. But... >Stop. >> > >> > For these, we don't want a separate/new community. They are supposed >>to >be >> > *part of* the existing TLP. Thus, they have no business here. They >should >> > start within the target TLP. >> >> The incubation of WebWork into Struts is an example where there was an >> existing project outside the ASF with an existing bunch of developers >> that were not ASF committers. The point of going through the incubator >> was for the communities to merge. I guess at the time we could have >> just given comitt access to all WebWork devs - but most of us on the >> Struts project didn't know them. Is that what you're proposing should >> happen in this scenario? > >Yup. > >The Incubator doesn't have "staff". It really doesn't make sense to put a >community in their hands. Either a community self-builds, or it should >become part of an existing community. > >For the WebWorks case, I would rather have seen them get a branch in >Struts. Over time, the features would get integrated from the branch to >trunk, and the committers would get expanded commit access. > >I understand a project may arrive, thinking to become a TLP, but later >change their desired exit. But I think it would be best to call that an >exception. Instead, we let target communities directly teach the incomers >about operating within their (our ASF-style) community. > >Cheers, >-g --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
