On Dec 10, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> I would be most grateful if the shepherd was willing to give the stone
> a shove down that hill.

Martjin deserves all the credit, but two shoves (email on etch-dev last week 
plus report) have had an effect.

There is a graduation VOTE underway with 3 +1 out of the 5 proposed PMC members.

My third shove's success is unknown...

Regards,
Dave

> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 3:55 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I took these notes yesterday, so please excuse me if some of these
>>>> have been fixed.
>>>> 
>>>> etch: no signoffs
>>> 
>>> Just did my signoff and added a personal observation:
>>> 
>>> The processes in this podling are really like trying to pour molasses 
>>> through
>>> a funnel in the winter. That said, I do think that the project is viable and
>>> an Apache community albeit a small, slow moving one. Given the nature of the
>>> project and its usage in automobile technology I don't think it will ever be
>>> as fast moving as a web or big data project. And that is not a bad thing for
>>> this type of software IMO.
>> 
>> My shepherd view agrees. Molasses is apt. I think a little Rum would help. 
>> Let's get this podling graduated!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> Martijn
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