Nice summary Bertrand.
On 29 October 2012 15:22, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org>wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Chip Childers > <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: > > ...Waf is a packaging utility, used to create RPMs and DEBs. Work is > > currently ongoing to remove it (and it's use) from the project > > entirely... > > ...That will be several weeks of work (not days), > > which is significantly longer than the community's desire to get a > > first podling release out the door... > > I don't think any Incubator PMC member is asking you to remove that > dependency, as I see it the only issue is that you are currently > aiming to release in in binary form. > > > ...It's one line of bytecode within a file that is not core to the > > project itself ... > > I don't think the issue is how big or how small that thing is: we do > not release binaries, see http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html > > So IMO your options now are: > > a) Fix the problem and recut your release without that binary. Make it > a separate -deps convenience package. > > I concur with Chip that this would come with a non-negligible cost to community spirit at this point. We've already been through a few rounds. I would +0 this is the community wanted to do it, but I would also be disappointed that we had to stop the release for something so minor. > b) Come up with a documented plan (issue in your tracker for example) > for how you're going to remove it from future releases, and still try > to get this release through. > Given the relative unimportance, and size, of the file in question, I would be willing to cast a binding +1 vote (as mentor and very new member of the Incubator PMC) on this, if we would say for definite that we remove this problem for the next release. But I was looking for some confirmation from this list that this is OK. > c) Try to convince us that such things are not really important, which > does not seem successful so far. > Yes, I don't think that's going to happen. > IMO, doing a) will get you immediate +1s. It's not uncommon for > podling releases to go through a few iterations before being accepted, > so I'm not sure what the problem with creating a separate -deps > package is. > > Choosing b) or c) lowers your chances for mentors and Incubator PMC to > give their +1s to the release. > > -Bertrand > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- NS
