I'm not sure how to give you edit privs but I have made the change you suggest.
Ross On 19 June 2012 01:34, Dave Brondsema <dbronds...@geek.net> wrote: > I'd like to clarify the "Current Status" section to say "Apache License > 2.0" -- I didn't catch that when we were editing the initial proposal text. > But it doesn't look like I have permission to edit the wiki page. If > that's something that can be granted, my wiki username is DaveBrondsema > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Ross Gardler > <rgard...@opendirective.com>wrote: > >> Couple of minor issues: >> >> Firstly this needs to go into the incubator Wiki - done see >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AlluraProposal >> >> Under "reliance on salaried developers" the proposal states "At >> present, almost all development on Allura is done on salaried time. It >> is understood that expanding the developer community to the point >> where this is not the case, is a goal of incubation." This isn't quite >> accurate. We don't have a problem with salaried time, we only worry >> about single sources of salaried time. I've taken the liberty (as a >> mentor) to change it to "At present, almost all development on Allura >> is done on salaried time ***from a single company***. It is understood >> that expanding the developer community to the point where this is not >> the case, is a goal of incubation." >> >> Ross >> >> On 18 June 2012 17:17, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: >> > PROPOSAL: Admit Allura to the Apache Incubator >> > >> > = Abstract >> > >> > Allura is a modular and extensible free/open source software platform >> for software development. You can read more about Allura’s feature set in >> the Allura wiki at https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Features/ >> > >> > = Proposal >> > >> > Allura is an open source implementation of a software "forge", a suite >> of web applications that manages source code repositories, bug reports, >> discussions, mailing lists, wiki pages, blogs and more for any number of >> individual projects as well as for collections of projects. >> > >> > SourceForge.net is running an instance of Allura, and Allura itself is a >> project managed there: http://sf.net/p/allura/. Additionally, >> http://software.dlr.de/ is using Allura. >> > >> > The name Allura itself has two meanings. It’s Sardinian slang for “And >> then …” It’s also the name of Princess Allura, from Voltron. Stories vary, >> as with any good project name. >> > >> > Allura has been designed to be the code and project hosting platform for >> SourceForge, the largest place for Open Source software tools and >> applications: home to over 3 million users, hosting a catalog of over >> 300,000 distinct projects and serving over 40 million unique visitors per >> month and over 15 million downloads per week. Allura was designed to be >> scalable, delivering only what projects need, and our aim is to collaborate >> with ASF to get the wider contributions and make it the richest all-in-one >> solution to design, write, debug and promote individual projects as well as >> collections of projects. >> > >> > = Background >> > >> > Since the late 1990’s, SourceForge has provided a place for people to >> create and run Open Source projects. In the last two years, the back-end >> has been completely rewritten, and has been Open Source since the beginning >> of that process. This rewritten code comprises Allura. >> > >> > Allura is written in Python, and provides a framework within which one >> can select source control (svn, git, mercurial, etc), issue trackers, >> discussion forums, and various other tools associated with the software >> development process. >> > >> > SourceForge.net itself is running on an instance of Allura. >> > >> > = Rationale >> > >> > Software development projects can be complicated beasts. By providing >> all of the necessary tools, and offering a choice of tools in most >> categories, Allura promotes best practice in software development. This >> product can be used either inside a company - as some are already doing at >> their own premise, such as http://software.dlr.de/ - or as an open forge >> like SourceForge, to encourage software projects to be done right. >> > >> > As Apache’s mission is to produce software for the public good, the >> Allura project fits right in by enabling others to also produce software >> using good development practices. >> > >> > We also believe strongly in giving project communities as much control >> over their destiny as possible, even if this means enabling them to take >> their project elsewhere. Allura is built to give projects complete control >> over their data, and Allura itself being Open Source contributes to this by >> giving them input into the hosting environment as well. Having Allura >> within Apache, and outside of direct SourceForge control, will give our >> development communities even more control of their projects. >> > >> > = Current Status >> > >> > Allura has been developed under the Apache Software License from the >> beginning. >> > >> > = Meritocracy >> > >> > We plan to do everything possible to encourage an environment which will >> support a meritocracy. At the moment all committers are either SourceForge >> employees or former SourceForge employees. We are already working with some >> universities to help students to build their career path collaborating with >> our open source project. >> > >> > = Community >> > >> > Allura has been developed in the open since its inception, and has a >> community of developers outside of the company that actively watch >> development, and submit tickets and patches. We are interested in building >> that community more, and adding more developers from outside of our >> organization. >> > >> > SourceForge has a long history of helping Open Source projects build >> their communities, and strongly believes in the value of the community, >> even over the value of the code itself. We look forward to diversification >> of our community, and the vibrancy this will grant to the code. >> > >> > Additionally, Allura supports the concept of “neighborhoods”, which >> allow for grouping of related projects into shared project management, >> which may be helpful with related projects within the ASF, were projects >> interested in adopting Allura as their development platform. >> > >> > = Alignment >> > >> > Allura is about software development, and has grown out of a community >> which is about open software development. The love for Open Source in >> general, and the Apache governance model in particular, is deep seated in >> all of the folks currently on the Allura team. >> > >> > While Allura itself enables any development methodology, the core Allura >> team is very much believers in the Apache Way. >> > >> > = Known Risks >> > >> > The existing Allura development team has the SourceForge website firmly >> in mind when developing. This means supporting our project developer >> communities and addressing their developer experience. >> > >> > We have a deep personal interest in seeing this project succeed, and, >> thus, our company be successful. This may may result in different >> priorities from members of the community that come from outside of >> SourceForge. >> > >> > However, we firmly believe that it’s exactly that diversification of the >> developer community that will make the product more successful. >> > >> > = Orphaned products >> > >> > As SourceForge’s entire business is based around this product, there’s >> no risk that the project development will be abandoned, regardless of the >> outcome of this proposal or a subsequent incubation. We’re in it for the >> long haul. Additionally, several other businesses are based around older >> versions of this product, and have expressed interest in ongoing >> participation. >> > Inexperience with Open Source >> > >> > The initial developers of this project have a long association with Open >> Source. SourceForge itself has been a hub of Open Source development, so to >> speak, for more than ten years, and many of the initial developers on this >> project have been involved with Open Source for as long or longer. >> > >> > = Homogeneous Developers >> > >> > The initial set of active developers are, indeed, almost all from the >> same company. Although there are some names on the initial committer list >> from outside the company, most of these are former employees who are not >> very active any more. >> > >> > We are hoping to expand that group of developers, in order to have wider >> input from our user community to improve the developer experience for those >> using Allura as a development infrastructure. >> > >> > = Reliance on Salaried Developers >> > >> > At present, almost all development on Allura is done on salaried time. >> It is understood that expanding the developer community to the point where >> this is not the case, is a goal of incubation. >> > Relationships with Other Apache Products >> > >> > It is hoped that some Apache projects might adopt Allura as their >> development infrastructure. We don’t know how this might come about, but >> would love to see that outcome. Indeed, overcoming objections to using >> Allura as a development infrastructure will no doubt lead to enormous >> product improvements. >> > >> > With regard to direct connections to Apache projects, Allura itself uses >> Apache Solr for search functionality, and the source control component >> supports Apache Subversion, in addition to other revision control >> technologies. >> > >> > = An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand >> > >> > We are indeed Apache fans. We look to Apache as a model of good >> community governance methodologies, and recommend these methodologies to >> projects hosted at SourceForge all the time. If this constitutes an >> excessive fascination with Apache, then we’re guilty as charged. >> > >> > However, we’re interested in joining the ASF family, not for the brand >> recognition, but in order to benefit from this community governance model. >> We already have a recognized brand, and we already have infrastructure. >> We’re interested in learning, as well as teaching, about how Open Source >> projects are run, and doing it better, as well as the obvious benefits to >> our project community and the product itself. >> > >> > = Initial Source >> > >> > The Allura source code has been developed in the open, in Git, on the >> SourceForge infrastructure, from day one. It has been under the Apache >> License, 2.0, also from day one. The entire code history can be seen here: >> > >> > https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/git/ >> > >> > The project began in July of 2010. >> > >> > = Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan >> > >> > >> > Geeknet owns copyright and other intellectual property rights on what >> its employees produce. The patches that we've received so far have had a >> "Signed-off-by" flag, to indicate licensing under AL2 See >> https://sourceforge.net/p/allura/wiki/Contributing%20Code/ for details. >> > >> > = External Dependencies >> > >> > External dependencies include MongoDB, Apache Solr, and numerous Python >> packages. >> > >> > = Cryptography >> > >> > None in the codebase, only in 3rd-party dependencies >> > >> > = Required Resources >> > >> > Allura is a development forge for Open Source software. It is currently >> self-hosted on the SourceForge.net instance, and we strongly believe that >> eating our own dogfood is central to the success of our project. As such, >> several of the items in this section request that we remain self-hosted, >> presumably on a VM running Allura. >> > >> > = Mailing lists >> > >> > In addition to the self-hosted web-based discussion forums, Allura >> requires the following mailing lists: >> > >> > allura-private >> > allura-dev >> > allura-users >> > allura-commits >> > >> > = Subversion Directory >> > >> > Input needed from Incubator PMC - Allura is currently developed in Git, >> and we’d prefer to keep it that way. We also desire to have our code be >> self-hosted - ie, to develop Allura within the Allura tool. >> > >> > = Issue Tracking >> > >> > Input needed from Incubator PMC. The Allura product includes a ticket >> tracker, and we would prefer to use all of our own tools, as much as >> possible, in the development of our product. >> > >> > = Initial Committers >> > >> > This is the initial committer list on the Allura project. >> > >> > kad...@geek.net Kyle Adams >> > tvansteenbu...@geek.net Tim Van Steenburgh >> > jar...@gmail.com Yaroslav Luzin >> > patr...@geek.net Patrick Lenz >> > wwit...@geek.net Wayne Witzel III >> > john...@geek.net Cory Johns >> > brond...@apache.org Dave Brondsema >> > r...@arborian.com Rick Copeland >> > jste...@geek.net Jenny Steele >> > sscrog...@geek.net Sonny Scroggin >> > galopp...@apache.org Roberto Galoppini >> > Sponsors >> > >> > = Champions >> > >> > Rich Bowen - rbo...@apache.org >> > Dave Brondsema - brond...@apache.org >> > >> > >> > = Nominated Mentors >> > >> > Rich Bowen - rbo...@apache.org >> > Ross Gardler- rgard...@apache.org >> > Greg Stein - gst...@apache.org >> > Jim Jagielski - j...@apache.org >> > >> > = Sponsoring Entity >> > >> > Incubator PMC >> >> >> >> -- >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >> Programme Leader (Open Development) >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > Dave Brondsema > Principal Software Engineer - sf.net > Geeknet > > -- > ==== > This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. 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