On May 27, 2012 1:55 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" <mar...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Ross Gardler
> <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote:
>
> >>  * Incubation proposals should have separate sections for "Initial
> >>    Committers" and "Initial PPMC Members".
> >
> > Too much hierarchy, the ASF is flat. This is hard to understand if we
> > introduce layers to incubation.
>
> Well, now *I'm* confused. :)  The distinction between committer and PMC
member
> exists at the ASF.  Some podlings choose to unify the roles of committer
and
> PPMC member, others do not -- same as with TLPs, some of which unify the
roles
> of committer and PMC Member while others do not.

Yes, and in the incubator the separation is the IPMC.

> My guess is that you believe the two roles ought to be unified

Depends on the project, entry into the incubator is not, IMHO, the time to
consider such a complex issue.

> > Why can't they just be contributors needing to earn merit just as they
> > would in a TLP?
>
> OK, then how about a place for people to sign up for the podling dev list
in
> advance?

Sure, but to what end? If the are interested enough they will sign up
whether they signed the wiki page or not. Having said that there is no harm
and if projects and champions see benefit then fair enough.

Ross

>
> In my opinion, there should continue to be a way for new people to get
> involved during the proposal phase.  The reason is simple: the less time
your
> signup sheet is out there, the fewer names you'll collect.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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