"Looking into ManifoldCF a bit, I think what you need is

* buildable source release that contains all the source for ManifoldCF
* source release that contains all the custom patches for the
dependencies that need patches"

Our mentor(s) are pushing strongly for a source release (which
contains the upstream patches), plus a "lib" release, which is to be
overlaid on the source release to allow it to build.  I much preferred
a source release and a convenience source+lib release, but that caused
significant objections, so I gave up.

But if others find my original proposal more to their liking, I'd be
happy to reopen the issue.

Karl

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Leo Simons <m...@leosimons.com> wrote:
> (dropped infra@)
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> I'm exceedingly sorry here that the IPMC as a whole let you down by
>> not turning into these issues and dealing with them at the outset.
>
> Me too.
>
>> Personally, I have no objection to including mutant jars in a -deps
>> binary with a clear explanation of what they are, but I would like to
>> see some support for that view, because I'd could imagine some
>> objections based on recent email.
>
> Me neither.
>
> But let me expand on that :-)
>
> Note the recent ("explosive"?) discussions were about source releases.
> If you get those right, what ancillary stuff (binaries, -deps
> packages, maven-repo-structured jar directories, ...) you can then
> _also_ have is not so much under discussion I think.
>
> Looking into ManifoldCF a bit, I think what you need is
>
> * buildable source release that contains all the source for ManifoldCF
> * source release that contains all the custom patches for the
> dependencies that need patches
> ** you could include the source code, but I'd actually prefer not to do that
> * source release that contains instructions for patching and then
> installing needed dependencies
> ** ideally this is all scripted of course (`build.xml
> install-and-patch-xerces` downloads xerces source release, extracts
> and applies patch, builds jar, copies jar into place, ...), but I
> don't see that as a requirement
>
> And if you have all that, then yeah, having various binary
> conveniences as well is not much of a discussion.
>
>
> cheers,
>
>
> Leo

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