On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > We have another question on this topic... RH counsel wants to know why > clause 4 rather than clause 7 of the ICLA doesn't serve our purposes > here.* My inexpert answer would be that the ICLA, with the exception > of clause 7, deals with "original" works, which is intended to exclude > "code that was developed outside of the ASF SVN repository and our > public mailing lists" to quote from > http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html . Am I on the > right track here?
Point them to clause 5. But perhaps a phone call is in order? I am likely in the same timezone as the RH counsel, in fact, I may even be in the same city. > Thanks, > Matt > > * for context, we are speaking about bits and pieces that will be > cherry-picked from the Solder and Seam 3 codebases; thus a software > grant is a bit of overkill, but saves committers having to disclaim > each commit as clause 7 would do. - Sam Ruby > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Matt Benson <gudnabr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Adding deltaspike-dev back to the distribution: >> >> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Gerhard Petracek <gpetra...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>> ok - matt and i just had a short talk with sam to ensure that we are >>> talking about the same. >>> it isn't the only way, but to resolve it once and for all it's easier to >>> handle it via a software grant. >>> >>> @matt: >>> it would be great if you can contact them again. >> >> Done, copying deltaspike-private. >> >> Matt >> >>> >>> @sam: >>> thx for your help >>> >>> regards, >>> gerhard >>> >>> >>> >>> 2012/1/17 Gerhard Petracek <gpetra...@apache.org> >>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> in general - fyi: >>>> we don't have a huge import. we discuss single features and if we agree on >>>> one, one of the members (of the original project) commits it. all authors >>>> have their icla on file, joined the project and participate in the >>>> discussion and the release votes. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> gerhard >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2012/1/17 Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:33 PM, ralph.goers @dslextreme.com >>>>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>>>> > I didn't mention CCLA's on purpose. A corporation will have a CCLA on >>>>> file >>>>> > to either a) declare that certain employees are permitted to contribute >>>>> > software or b) declare that certain software is contributed to the ASF. >>>>> A >>>>> > CCLA that is on file that only includes Schedule A doesn't grant the ASF >>>>> > permission to use specific software created by the company. If the >>>>> company >>>>> > is donating the software they need to specify it. If the software is >>>>> being >>>>> > contributed via an ICLA then the CCLA simply says the company is giving >>>>> the >>>>> > contributor the right to contribute software that normally the company >>>>> > would own. However, an individual should never contribute software under >>>>> > their ICLA that they didn't author, unless they have explicit permission >>>>> > from the other authors. For a "significant" contribution a software >>>>> grant >>>>> > is typically the best way to do it. >>>>> >>>>> I concur. >>>>> >>>>> Either an (additional|updated) CCLA with a concurrent software grant >>>>> (Schedule B) for the code in question -or- simply a separate Software >>>>> Grant would be appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> If RedHat is on board with this (and everything in this conversations >>>>> indicated that that is indeed the case), then that shouldn't be a >>>>> problem? >>>>> >>>>> - Sam Ruby >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
