Hi Jim, On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 16:14 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > certainly don't help. It just reinforces a perceived division > as well as almost forcing the "other side" to take a defensive > stance.
Hey ho; I see my name being taken intravenously ;-) so the longer quote from a private mail from which this was excerpted that I sent to Sean (who I think summarised it fairly) was: The ASF has a very well designed governance, and a very experienced team, and some excellent licensing for specific situations, and I love their open-ness and robust discussion which is refreshing to see wrt. OO.o. <quote> "However, I do not believe the ASF is likely to provide a good home for the OO.o project in the long run. They are sufficiently confident and comfortable with their model that attempting to negotiate over changing any core aspect of it (such as the non-copy-left stance) is unlikely to be fruitful work. So - only time will tell. </quote> There is only so much sweetness and light I can prefix to honey my basic conviction expressed as an individual :-) Hopefully one that you heard from me directly first. Furthermore, I believe that the Apache licensing and policies are for the most part extremely mature, very applicable and effective in certain projects, and fundamentally non-negotiable. These are the 'core aspects' I'm trying to get at as pointless to discuss changing. Reading the threads here, I hardly think that is controversial, but perhaps I missed something - I certainly don't want to shame anyone. Furthermore, if journalists come and ask questions, and others are speaking to the media - I don't see any substantial ethical problem with doing so too. Apologies if it came across badly, ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org