On Jun 4, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > I would be very wary of this sort of assertion, regardless of the person who > made it, Jim. TDF does have quite an interesting story on this but we > naively felt that discussions that were clearly off the record were to be > kept, well, off the record. But then if everybody else comes up with his own > version it might be necessary for TDF to bring its own version to the table. >
Sorry... I didn't mean to open a can of worms. What I wanted to do was ensure that people knew that there were discussions between TDF and Oracle (and Oracle/IBM) and that asking the ASF "what's wrong with TDF" or "why Oracle/IBM didn't give it to us" is both asking the wrong person as well as asking for heresay. It's just important for the people from the ASF side who do not know the history, and may be asking "Why didn't Oracle/IBM chat w/ TDF" to know that it *did* happen. > > I think I have expressed myself -and so did TDF- on our interest to work > with ASF. We are discussing terms, and also how the general discussion is > framed. But this being said I also do feel we're making progress, aren't we? > I think we are, yes, and it's a great feeling... > >> >> P.S. I am again reminded by people (privately, in order to keep >> the noise down a bit) that although TDF is a major player in the >> OOo space, it is not "just" the ASF and TDF, but *everyone*. >> > > I would rephrase this in a different way. This is Free Sofware, TDF's > mission is to replace the "OOo space" with the "LibreOffice space", and yes > there are other players, but I feel that's somewhat obvious. :) By point is that the Apache podling proposal is about OpenOffice.org, the entire community, and so while we need to ensure open lines of communication and collaboration and cooperation between the ASF and TDF, we (the ASF) must also ensure that other members of the OOo community and eco-system feel just as important to the discussion and the events. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
