I suggest you stick to the content of the e-mails on the list, Jim. Yes, I am concerned about how this all came about, but the reason I am here on the list is to be constructive and not to be bitch-slapped and misrepresented just for showing up.
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > Cmon Joe, Simon's PoV has been clear from his tweets, > unless he has changed his mind... If I am mis-representing > his stance, Simon's a big boy and can tell me where I'm > wrong and I'll admit I was wrong. Does he say that *both* > TDF and the ASF has the opportunity? No, just the ASF. > > Maybe that is a nit, but of such nits confusion arises. > > On Jun 3, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > > Cmon Jim, he wrote a lengthy monologue which spelled > > out his position. As I read it, we could license > > the OpenOffice trademark to the Document Foundation > > for, as Simon put it, "business as usual" distributions. > > If we wanted to we could specify a time/date/event > > upon which that license terminates, and the "new" > > stuff going on at the ASF would be distributing code > > under the mark. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> > >> To: general@incubator.apache.org > >> Sent: Fri, June 3, 2011 1:58:51 PM > >> Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the > > Community? > >> > >> > >> On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On 3 Jun 2011, at 17:52, Ian Lynch wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Florian, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I do see with great concern is the need for a second project to be > set-up > >>>>> at Apache or any other entity. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thing is that this is done, Oracle didn't and won't now give the IP > to any > >>>> other foundation. So we are where we are. > >>> > >>> We may be where we are, but we collectively have the opportunity to > >> collaborate once Oracle has gone - that's what "open" means. "My way > or the > >> highway" talk - from any side - is detestable. ASF has the opportunity > to > >> reject the bait to head down the path of ideological conflict, choose a > >> conciliatory path that respects the existing community and especially > to use > >> the trademark (which is the only actual asset being transferred) for > everyone's > >> good. > >>> > >> > >> Let's be honest: by "collaborate" you mean have the ASF simply > >> xfer the code and the trademark to TDF and walk away... At least, > >> that is the strong impression you give. Please correct me if I'm > >> wrong. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Simon Phipps +1 415 683 7660 : www.webmink.com
