Joe Schaefer wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: William A. Rowe Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:08:40 AM >> Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: >> [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion) > >> Greg wrote: >>> Look at the context. Being asked to throw together some bits for a >>> "release". Oh, just any bits will do. But wait, since they aren't >>> quite proper, you don't really have to announce it to users. ... come >>> on, that is not education. That isn't teaching anybody anything. >> We don't disagree. So stick around long enough to make a real release that >> the Incubator PMC can validate, or come to a reasonable exception that the >> Incubator can accept. But don't go flying off into rants about process that >> the board has *charged* the Incubator with defining and enforcing :) > > Wait a second Bill. In the not-too-distant past there was no requirement > for a podling to cut a release. Infrastructure people pushed for there to > be one, and pushed to have the incubator releases on the mirrors, because it > turns out prior graduating projects needed to be trained by infra on how to > do this properly.
They also needed to be alert for licensing snafus, that was why I support[ed] the 'requirement'. > The purpose of doing a release within the incubator has now morphed into > something a bit different, and not entirely for the better. I have been > paying attention to subversion release processes for years, and frankly we > should be adopting *their* methods here at Apache. We don't have anything > to teach them other than mirror mechanics, and that can be learned post- > graduation. Agreed in this case, w.r.t. SVN. But in the general case, this is still best taught while at the incubator. I'm responding to Greg's rant, not to a well-stated, well-reasoned appeal for an exception. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
