On 17/08/2009, ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Craig L Russell<craig.russ...@sun.com> wrote: > > Hi Ant, > > > > On Aug 17, 2009, at 7:33 AM, ant elder wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:04 PM, sebb<seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>>> > >>>> >> the NOTICE file looks acceptable to me too. > >>>> > > >>>> > AIUI, the NOTICE file needs to give attributions to all 3rd party > >>>> code > >>>> > included in the propose release. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> no - just require 3rd party attribution notices and relocated > >>>> copyrights (see http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice) > >>> > >>> So all the 3rd party licenses need to be checked to see if they > >>> require attribution or not. > >>> > >>> I've only checked one - Antlr - and AFAICT that does require > >>> attribution (notice). > >>> > >> > >> The contents of the NOTICE file is another area I think is not so > >> precisely defined. > >> http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice says: > >> > >> "The remainder of the NOTICE file is to be used for required > >> third-party notices" > > > > The NOTICE file is where downstream consumers of Apache software expect to > > find *all* *required* third-party notices. > >> > >> but there is nothing that defines what are "required third-party > >> notices". The ANTLR license (http://www.antlr.org/license.html) says: > >> > >> "Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright > >> notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the > >> documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution." > > > > When a notice includes the words "required", "must", "shall", or other > > imperative, then the notice is considered to be a "required third-party > > notice". And it should therefore be placed into the top level NOTICE file > of > > the distribution. > > > But if thats what we take as the meaning then that would mean the > entire ANTLR license should be included
Yes. > in the NOTICE file No, it can be elsewhere. > because the > ANTLR license clause is asking for three things to be reproduced: > > 1) the above copyright notice That's the NOTICE bit. > 2) this list of conditions > 3) the following disclaimer > > So is the suggestion then that all those three things be included in > the NOTICE file? I've not seen any Apache projects do that. No, just put the Copyright header in the NOTICE file Put the entire license in the LICENSE file. > > ...ant > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
