Apologies. I'm fired up about another discussion on the pivot-dev list
and I'm letting it bleed over here.
My assertion stands, though. I don't think that it is realistic to
think that any non-trivial project can be effectively guided without
some concept of leadership. Do others on this list share David's
opinion? If so, how do you think such projects should be managed?
On Aug 10, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Greg Brown wrote:
Ordinarily, I'd refrain from comment on a topic such as this. But I
think it's pretty unrealistic to consider any project, especially
one of Pivot's magnitude, to be practically fostered without any
kind of "leader". I don't claim authority, and I don't think that my
vote counts any more than anyone else's. However, I don't think
*any* project is likely to be successful without some kind of vision
behind it, and, from my experience, that's typically driven by a
handful of individuals. Yes, there are lots of other contributors
without whom a project would not be successful. But to say that
there is no such concept as a "leading developer" is a fallacy.
If that's an idea that's too foreign to the ASF, then perhaps Pivot
doesn't belong here.
On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:15 PM, David Crossley wrote:
This is a general comment to everyone. It is finally triggered
by this month's report from Pivot.
There is no such concept at the ASF as "leading developer".
Yes i know that the Jira issue tracker is misleading, as it has
an incorrect label on its interface: "Project Lead"
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProjects.jspa
Some projects get around that by referring to "Xxx Developers".
However today i am not really concerned about Jira. It is the
use of the term in board reports and such, that indicates an issue.
-David
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