My recollection of the discussion was that the recommendations where a) don't ask the party that might be infringed on for permission, b) it is OK to wait for the project to wait until they are contacted, if ever, before doing anything. Ironically, shortly before this discussion there was another project that had clearly infringed on someone else's trademark, was contacted by them, and at the recommendation of our attorneys the project name was changed fairly painlessly. The answers I saw to this thread were all in line with what they attorneys had discussed in that instance.

In short, I have never understood why JSecurity decided to change its name. IIRC the only potential conflict was with a company that didn't actually produce a software product with that name and that company has never contacted us, despite JSecurity having been around for quite a while.

Ralph


On May 20, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Maarten Bosteels wrote:

Hi,

I just read http://markmail.org/message/kpk4x2bre4r4o2za
and my conclusion is that it's really absurd that the project is going to
change its name.

In that thread, most people expressed preference to keep the name
"JSecurity"
and as far as I could see there never came a clear, decisive answer from the
ASF legal team.
Or is the reply by Marc Poussin considered decisive and authoritative ?
Or maybe there's another thread that I missed ?

Both this thread and the one from last year are full of assumptions on legal matters made by people that I assume are not lawyers. (I am probably guilty
of it myself)

I don't think it's a smart way to handle this issue.
Will this discussion start again and again every time someone posts a blog
comment saying they have been using name xxx in their company ?

regards,
Maarten

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Chintana Wilamuna <chinta...@gmail.com >wrote:

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Les Hazlewood <lhazlew...@apache.org>
wrote:

We look forward to all name suggestions, and we appreciate anyone who
wishes
to participate!

Apache Narsil

Narsil is the sword of Kind Elendil in Lord Of The Rings. Which acts
as a symbol of great power and protection in the hands of who's
carrying it.

Bye,

  -Chintana

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http://engwar.com/



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