2009/2/22 Otis Gospodnetic <otis_gospodne...@yahoo.com>: > > My GSOC suggestion was related to the earlier comment that for some reason > UIMA is unable to engage more contributors and convert them into committers > (GSoC could help get some fresh blood), not the branch tied to the academia. > :)
I see. This illustrates problems with top posting. We lose context and thus head off on a tangent. Thanks for bringing s back on track. Indeed GSoC is a good way of attracting new committers, but certainly not foolproof. UIMA people should join code-awa...@a.o as this years program gets underway soon. Ross > > Otis > -- > Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:40:12 PM >> Subject: Re: UIMA [WAS Re: Suspending Projects] >> >> 2009/2/21 Otis Gospodnetic : >> > >> > Perhaps GSOC is something to consider. I see UIMA didn't have anything in >> 2008: http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2008 >> >> GSoC is entirly separate from the academics, it is for students. The >> problems expressed in this thread are with respect to research staff >> who produce software as part of their work. >> >> I agree the GSoC mentoring idea can be used to do educate the staff >> within university. I'm currently seeking funding for doing something >> with this, but my existing project focuses on the research staff being >> discussed here. >> >> Ross >> >> > >> > >> > Otis >> > -- >> > Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ---- >> >> From: Thilo Goetz >> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> >> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:31:50 PM >> >> Subject: Re: UIMA [WAS Re: Suspending Projects] >> >> >> >> Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> >> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> We should probably try to find the collective energy to review UIMA >> >> >> before the project's enthusiasm is sapped. >> >> > >> >> > That sounds like a healthy observation. My Q for the community is; Do >> >> > you have a healthy and diverse set of users? If so, have the UIMA team >> >> > looked at "What is stopping these users from becoming contributors?" ? >> >> >> >> Yes, we do have a healthy and diverse user community. We have >> >> racked our brains what we could do to attract more community >> >> contribution. We've created a sandbox to facilitate the inclusion >> >> of experimental technology. There's been some uptake, but not >> >> enough. Some of us are working on scale out via JMS and are >> >> hoping to attract contributions in that area. We've started >> >> discussions and suggested things for people to work on. I don't >> >> know, maybe we're going about this the wrong way. >> >> >> >> My pet hypothesis (or maybe I'm just looking for excuses) is >> >> this: UIMA is heavily used in academia. Now academics have no >> >> problems with open source, to the contrary. But they have an >> >> overwhelming need to publish and build up a reputation. So >> >> they like to publish their source code on their own web site, >> >> where it's clear it's their work, rather than contribute to >> >> some community effort. If you look around, you'll see all >> >> manner of university efforts around UIMA, but very little of >> >> that code finds its way back into the ASF repo. >> >> >> >> Enough whining. If you have any suggestions, we'll be happy >> >> to hear them. >> >> >> >> --Thilo >> >> >> >> > I could imagine a whole range of reasons, and if that is 'fixed' the >> >> > diversity comes with it... >> >> > If there is not a user community, then I would be concerned to >> >> > graduate the project with the large set of single-employer committers. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Cheers >> >> > Niclas >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Ross Gardler >> >> OSS Watch - awareness and understanding of open source software >> development and use in education >> http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- -- Ross Gardler OSS Watch - awareness and understanding of open source software development and use in education http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
