>All in all, appears to be a very nice proposal. :-) Thanks. :-)
>You might want to reorganize and elaborate a bit. In particular, you list >Flex, Silverlight, and OpenLazlo up top, but you don't appear to compare >against them, whereas JavaFX is mentioned and compared against in a sort of >buried location, and are others in the Java RIA space, such as GWT, are not >mentioned at all. Good points. I restructured that section to more clearly articulate how Pivot differs from those platforms, and I added a section comparing Pivot to GWT (currently just stubbed out - will provide more detail later). >I'd also be interested to know how you feel it might relate to projects such >as MyFaces (JSF) where one could imagine rich client components as plums in >a JSP pudding. Given your own references to AJAX and the existence of AJAX >components for JSF, the question seems begged. I don't see any reason why Pivot couldn't be used in conjunction with something like MyFaces (or any other server-side framework). We actually tried to generate some interest in the Grails community along these lines earlier in the year, but we didn't have much luck. >Have you done anything about allowing WS-* (WSDL) Web Services, in addition >to REST style? Are there any issues? Or would we use REST to reach >server-side, and go to WS-* type service from the server? Pivot includes "out-of-the-box" support for REST-style web queries, but Pivot apps are not limited to REST for server communication. Because it runs in a JRE (as you noted), a Pivot application can take advantage of any client/server protocol that has a Java API. You could use Axis to talk to SOAP-based services, and the source code includes a demo app that talks to a Flex RPC server; see http://java.dzone.com/news/calling-flex-data-services-piv. >So this looks quite >appealing so far, although startup time is slower than I would like, and I >am wondering about footprint. >From our experience, startup time when running in J6u10+ is vastly improved >over earlier versions, though it is certainly still an issue for users running >pre-J6u10 JVMs. Memory footprint is comparable to an AJAX application and can >often be less - large-scale AJAX applications can become quite heavy. >Given that the core of your client side appears to be a Java Applet, you >might wish to know that I have been to your site and been running the demos >under Firefox 3 with Sun's newly released 64-bit Java plugin for linux. Hopefully the experience was positive? I'm not sure if we've tested that configuration yet. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
