On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Jan Lehnardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Robert, > > On Nov 4, 2008, at 14:42, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Niall Pemberton >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> I haven't been following CouchDB but a PMC of five seems small - you >>> only have to loose a couple of people and you're on the verge of not >>> being a viable project. I took a look through the lists and from what >>> I can see CouchDB entered incubation with four committers in February >>> (the proposal listed six, but apparently was a mistake[1]) and has >>> added one new person just over a month ago[2]. >>> >>> I know theres been a push to get projects to graduate, but IMO CouchDB >>> would benefit from growing its community a bit more first. >> >> as a general point, i tend to agree >> >> i wonder whether we might now be pushing a little too hard for >> projects to graduate
(i wasn't commenting on CoachDB in particular but i'll add a couple of specific comments) > I am not familiar with how "mature" other projects are when they graduate, > maybe we are just not there yet. I just like to point out that CouchDB was > a healthy project before entering incubation with mailing lists, regular > contributors, bug tracking & releases. I understand that ASF-guidelines > are different and that we might still belong in the Incubator. i don't see it in terms of belonging or not, but just whether the Incubator has taught CoachDB everything it needs to become a successful Apache project. recruiting new committers is an essential skill. > On the "push", I don't know what you are referring to exactly. We don't see > any pressure from the ASF or Incubator or Mentors or outside to graduate. > We as the project just felt we are ready. Considering our mentors +1'd our > desire to graduate, they don't have these concerns. Who is "pushing" here? there's a general feeling that graduation has been too slow in the past and that podlings should be encouraged to devote more energy towards pushing to graduation - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]