> Doesn't requiring a library with an excluded license pretty much throw > the apache license part out the window? Are these optional > dependencies? Will couchdb run at all without them? As far I know yes.
-- Cheers Philippe philippe ombredanne | 1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne at nexb.com nexB - Open by Design (tm) - http://www.nexb.com http://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net - http://eclipse.org/atf - http://eclipse.org/vep - http://labs.jboss.org/drools/ - http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XULRunner > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Carman > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:41 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Installers for couchdb > > > Doesn't requiring a library with an excluded license pretty much throw > the apache license part out the window? Are these optional > dependencies? Will couchdb run at all without them? > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Craig L Russell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Philippe Ombredanne wrote: > > > >> Howdy: > >> I am working on couchdb installers that I would like to > contribute back to > >> the project: > >> A fully functional CouchDb install has a few external > dependencies such > >> as: > >> - ICU (ICU License a BSD/MIT style license) > >> - Mozilla SpiderMonkey (MPL, GPL or LGPL) > >> - Erlang (ERLANG PUBLIC LICENSE) > >> - Openssl (OpenSSL license, a BSD style license) > >> > >> My understanding is that it would not be acceptable > IP-clearance wise to > >> have all (though some may be) those bits shipped as part > of all-inclusive > >> installers. > > > > That's my understanding of the current consensus as well. > >> > >> > >> My request: > >> Would it be acceptable to create installers that would > fetch at install > >> time > >> the required external bits from their original download locations? > >> Those fetch operations would be clearly presented as external fetch > >> operationsto the users. > > > > I think the current operative policy is from > > http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html: > > . For add-ons under excluded licenses, the PMC may provide a > > link/reference on the product web site or within product > documentation to > > some other web site that hosts such add-ons (e.g. a SF.net > project or some > > third-party site dedicated to distributing add-ons for the > Apache product) > > as long as it is made clear to users that the host site is > not part of the > > Apache product nor endorsed by the ASF. > > . For add-ons under excluded licenses, the PMC may > include a feature > > within the product that allows the user to obtain > third-party add-ons if the > > feature also alerts the user of the associated license and > makes clear to > > users that the host site is not part of the Apache product > nor endorsed by > > the ASF. > > > > So as long as your installer makes it clear to the user > that the external > > bits are not Apache-licensed, I read the policy as allowing > the CouchDb > > installer to fetch and install them and thereby make them > available to the > > CouchDb user. > > > > Craig > >> > >> Cordially > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers > >> Philippe > >> > >> philippe ombredanne | 1 650 799 0949 | pombredanne at nexb.com > >> nexB - Open by Design (tm) - http://www.nexb.com > >> http://easyeclipse.org - http://phpeclipse.net - > http://eclipse.org/atf - > >> http://eclipse.org/vep - http://labs.jboss.org/drools/ - > >> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XULRunner > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > Craig L Russell > > Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System > http://java.sun.com/products/jdo > > 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
