Niall Pemberton schrieb: > On Jan 23, 2008 7:23 AM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Niall >> >> Asking someone politely to rename the package is hardly throwing our >> weight around. >> > > Well you were talking about "need to change the package name" and > "rigorous protection" rather than some kind of "hey we'd prefer > it...". > > If people are so keen on *protecting* apache in this way then rather > than starting with a failed incubator project, then how about this > stuff: > > https://glassfish.dev.java.net/source/browse/glassfish/appserv-webtier/src/java/org/apache/ >
Again, that is a bit different from the original TCIK issue. It *appears* that here they are not doing this in order to *distribute* a forked copy of tomcat, but instead to support tomcat as an alternative internal servlet-engine implementation within their own j2ee server. In other words, I would think that: (a) you could not normally download this code except by downloading the entire glassfish server, and (b) they are not actively developing this code to add new features (forking) but simply adding a few patches to make it integrate better with Glassfish. The alternate implementations of commons-logging have also been mentioned in this thread. This is not the same IMO. Commons-logging is both an API and an implementation. People should be able to provide alternate implementations of an API, and that is what slf4j are doing for example; they are not providing a "patched" or "forked" commons-logging, but instead a complete alternative implementation, and are distributing just the minimum amount of code to provide the same api to users. So: * distributing a few classes in order to implement an apache API : ok * distributing a copy of apache code for the convenience of users of a larger package, perhaps with a few minor tweaks for better integration: ok * publishing code to the world which bears no resemblance to code approved by the ASF: not ok All this just just my opinion of course.. Regards, Simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]