Re: [VOTE] Allow podling members to set up their own infra

[Craig L Russell]

On Nov 28, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

On Nov 22, 2007 6:29 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Since there has been no discussion, and this is a change to policy

Discussion to what?  I see the RAT set up thread, but there was no

mentors specifically", and you wondered why he wasn't a Mentor.

discussion of a general policy change. Robert said that "infrastructure approval should probably rest with the IPMC in general rather than the

I'd like to formally propose adopting the policy change in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-71

as noted by Robert.  Mentors are PMC members.

-1 on the grounds that some degree of decentralization is desirable, but infrastructure changes should be effected under the auspices of the PMC,

IMHO this involves both a wider and narrower issue

1. for this narrow issue, approval has already been given. insisting
that mentors in particular prepare the required JIRA isn't really
adding anything but friction to the process.

+1

2. the wider issue is whether all infrastructure work should require
IPMC approval and (if so) what form this approval should take

IMO it would be more effect to remove this particular rule and insist
that infrastructure work was approved by the IPMC

Craig

Including the withdrawn proposal here for reference:
+ Some incubating projects will include committers who have karma
+ to perform the setup activities. These committers MAY set up the
+ project with oversight by the Mentors.

I understand Robert's comment here to mean that the vote to approve the podling for incubation is explicit approval to set up the required infrastructure named in the incubation request. If so, +1. If not, please elaborate. And I can't figure what more approval might be required. Oversight, yes. Approval, how?

- robert

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