NMS is something that the Apache ActiveMQ team have done.
http://activemq.apache.org/nms/

Whether we are in violation of the Sun licenses is a fine question.

Paul

On 6/6/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
which standards body created NMS?

- robert

On 6/1/07, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Coping incubator general and apache legal lists on this thread for
> additional comments on this topic.
> Carl.
>
> John O'Hara wrote:
> > Yes, IBM are I fully paid up licensee of Java technology - and can do
> > whatever they like with it.
> >
> > I asked permission of IBM if we could implement the XMS API some time
> > back,
> > and they said they did not have the right to grant that approval....
> >
> > Unless Apache has a license to do this that I am not aware of, we are
> > not on
> > safe ground since NMS is clearly a derived work of JMS.
> >
> > Wait for the lawyers....
> > John
> > On 01/06/07, Colin Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> In case you've not seen this, IBM have long since rendered the JMS API
> >> into
> >> C++, C and C#
> >>
> >> 
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/library/techarticles/0509_philli
> >>
> >> ps/0509_phillips.html
> >>
> >> Colin.
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Arnaud Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: 01 June 2007 15:34
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; general@incubator.apache.org
> >> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: NMS
> >> >
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > We have been thinking about implementing the NMS API as part
> >> > of the QPID .Net client. However we are concerned about
> >> > potential legal issues.
> >> > It seems to me that the NMS API is very similar to the JMS
> >> > one but the JMS specification specifically licenses the
> >> > technology "only for Java".
> >> >
> >> > This is the relevant license, copied directly from the JMS Spec
> >> > document:
> >> >
> >> > "Subject to the terms and conditions of this license, Sun
> >> > hereby grants you a fully-paid, non-exclusive,
> >> > non-transferable, worldwide, limited license (without the
> >> > right to sublicense) under Sun's intellectual property rights
> >> > to review the Specification internally solely for the purpose
> >> > of designing and developing your Java applets and
> >> > applications intended to run on the Java platform. Other than
> >> > this limited license, you acquire no right, title or interest
> >> > in or to the Specification or any other Sun intellectual
> >> > property. The Specification contains the proprietary
> >> > information of Sun and may only be used in accordance with
> >> > the license terms set forth herein. This license will
> >> > terminate immediately without notice from Sun if you fail to
> >> > comply with any provision of this license. Upon termination
> >> > or expiration of this license, you must cease use of or
> >> > destroy the Specification."
> >> >
> >> > Does anybody know if this concern has already been raised?
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Arnaud
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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