Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On 3/14/06, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm resurrecting the thread that fell off into /dev/null after
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200603.mbox/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
So this sentence in
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+of+Proposal+by+Sponsor
doesn't match current reality and confuses TLP sponsors who think they
need to wait for an Incubator PMC vote:
The Incubator PMC MAY immediately accept the Candidate, or may (at the
discretion of the Incubator PMC) require a successful VOTE by the Incubator PMC.
Here are a couple replacement suggestions that give the Incubator PMC an
opportunity to voice any objections:
a) Sponsor may proceed with podling creation if the Incubator PMC
raises no issues within three days.
- or -
b) Sponsor may proceed with podling creation after the Incubator PMC
acknowleges the request.
a+b. =)
We're talking about two PMCs so I've made it a little more explicit:
How about following the board's system for acknowledging new PMC members:
1. The *chair* of the Sponsoring PMC sends in notification to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. Any Incubator PMC member can then send an ACK and start a 72hr clock.
3. If any Incubator PMC member says "hold" before 72hrs are up, a formal
discussion/vote is then conducted.
4. If no Incubator PMC member has any negative comment at the end of 72hr
clock, then the Sponsor PMC chair can commit the status file and 'start' the
podling.
I have a concern about item 2. It has been my experience that the Incubator
PMC can be a bit tardy in replying to emails. May I suggest that the 72 hour
window starts w/ item 1? Given that, then item 2 seems superfluous.
My next concern is in regard to 3. It implies that if the Incubator PMC does
not positively vote for the incubation, then it does not get incubated. IIUC,
the Incubator PMC cannot block the start of the incubation of a project that
has been sponsored by another PMC. Maybe that changed, I may have missed that
exchange.
If my understanding is correct, I propose:
1. The *chair* of the Sponsoring PMC sends in notification to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At that time a 72 hour clock starts.
2. If any Incubator PMC member says "hold" before 72 hours are up, a formal
discussion is then conducted with the goal of consensus. In the unfortunate
circumstance that a consensus cannot be built, the Sponsoring PMC is free to
proceed to start the podling; this should only be done in extreme cases.
3. If no Incubator PMC member has any negative comment at the end of 72 hour
clock, then the Sponsor PMC chair can commit the status file and 'start' the
podling.
Regards,
Alan
