On Saturday 18 February 2006 12:05, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Got word from Noel that the PPMC for Ode (seeded by mentors) will VOTE > on giving people access (just like Harmony and other projects).
Without getting into what representation of Noel's statement was... All due respect, I still didn't get an answer on why it is such a big deal (Harmony is different due to SCSL exposure, and IIRC no initial codebase either). Let's assume for a second that the bar of entry is raised to HTTPd levels for podlings, and podlings coming into the Incubator at the current rate; I can only observe that the individuals driving all these proposals are largely the same group of people. Even when working full time on Apache projects, each one's effort will stretch very thin. Quick (non-scientific[1]) look at projects you guys (mentors of ODE) are working on; Dims = 18 projects Strachan = 12 projects Geir = 16 projects And compare that with some "heavy weighters"; Ken Coar = 6 projects Greg Stein = 5 projects. Roy Fielding = 3 projects Noel Bergman = 6 projects Please note; this is not about *your* commitment to ASF, and how you choose to distribute your time over 1 or many projects, but isn't it in the interest of the ASF to distribute the work load, broaden the community and get "more hands on deck"?? I can't see *any* benefit of locking out the people who wrote the code in the first place. I can't see any benefit of the three mentors doing a person-by-person vetting process. I only see slower pace and potential frustration from individuals who has been working on the codebase, possibly for years. Cheers Niclas [1] grep <apachename> /x1/svn/asf-authorization | grep -v ^pmc-chairs | grep -v ^svnadmins | grep -v ^members | grep -v ^apsite | grep -v ^committers | grep -v ^infrastructure | grep -v pmc | grep -v ^avalon | grep -v ^board | grep -c "" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]